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Hello I have used defrag for years yet never saw this. . Today it said not all files coud be defragged but it also said defrag was complete and it is not necessary to run it again. I was going to send a print but there was a scroll with items in it and too many to copy. Is this normal or do I have an issue to deal with? Thank you
I think defragmentation is overrated. But first, your observation that defrag reported some files could not be defragged, I would suggest it always said that and you did not notice until now. It is typical for any and all defrag programs that runs from within Windows to skip some critical system files that cannot be moved, deleted, renamed or anything else while the parent program is open. This is why I always recommend running in Safe Mode where only the minimum number of files are opened

Now for defragging - most people today do not need regular defragging - not enough to justify paying for a program. In fact, the Windows Disk Defragmenter is just fine. Any improvement from a 3rd party defragger will be lost after a day or 2 of use anyway. Unless you frequently install and uninstall a great many programs, and are running low on free disk space, frequent defragging is not needed.

If you have a big NTFS formated hard drive with lots of free disk space left, and your typical computer usage does not involve frequent installs and uninstalls of large programs, then once ever 6 months or so is fine. Just don't forget to always delete the 1000s of temporary Internet files first.
I tend to differ with you Digerati, but my expertise is not in your area :blush: I know I get a better performance from my machines when I clean up all temps and defrag…. especially with my XP home Computer.
I did not think the link I was directed to was a solicitation so I did not get it. I think digerati is right and will try in safe mode not expecting to defrag all files. I always delete temp internet files first; I have a 40 gb hard drive with NTFS. Thanx again for your clarification
Auslogics Disk Defrag is free. I use it on all three of my computers. I'm not sure what you mean by a "solicitation"?

I think digerati is right and will try in safe mode not expecting to defrag all files.


If your page file and MFT (Master File Table) are fragmented, then the only solution to defragment them completely is with a boot-time defrag with your defragger of choice. Safe mode does not help. It's also advisable to run a conventional defrag to consolidate some free space that can accomodate the contiguous system files, before running a boot-time defrag. *

What does the list of fragmented files say in your defrag analysis report? If you have been defragging regularly, I suspect most of them are just newly created System Restore Points or from the internet cache; and if they are, you don't have much to worry about as far as those files are concerned.

As for frequency of defrag, fully automatic defrag makes that factor irrelevant. Keeping the drives defragmented is always good for performance.

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1- I ran the Auslogics and it ran a defrag . At the end it said there were 1500 'junk' files in my pc and promted me to go to a page where, for a fee, I could remove junk -that is why I meant 'fee'. It did not say my machine could not be defragged. 2- As a non tech, I do not understand what a boot time defrag is. I ran windows defrag in safe mode and the top gave a report of files defragged and the bottom did not list anything for "files not defragged", it was blank.. 3- I pay close attenytion to results of scans and tests and I know I have never seen "some files cannot be degragged" in the years I have run defrag. Obviously I am a bit confused here bc I don't now know if I must proceed further and if so what to do. Perhaps I'll try system restore Thank you for your help.

I tend to differ with you Digerati, but my expertise is not in your area

I know I get a better performance from my machines when I clean up all temps and defrag…. especially with my XP home Computer.

Now wait! I did not say "cleaning up temps and defragging"is overrated - I said only "defragging" is overrated. Then I went on to clarify by saying,

most people today do not need regular defragging - not enough to justify paying for a program

BIG difference! I clean out my temp files all the time!

I do not understand what a boot time defrag is

Even in safe mode, some files are used and cannot be moved. The only way to defrag those files is often to run the defrag during the boot process before Windows is allowed to start. Some defrag programs allow you to schedule defragging during those times.
It sounds as though you use the defragger to schedule defrag during the boot process - I would like to know the steps to do this but if it is a pain I'll accept the fact that some files cannot be defragged with conventional methods.
B/c you were so helpful I thought it a good idea to explain what I found that is probably the problem. Ccleaner reports that an issue could not be removed b/c the program no longer exists but there is a key that it cannot remove. The answer is to remove that key. I don't want to get into the registry as I am not qualified. Hope this helps and thanx again.
When running CCleaner's Registry checker, it is typical to have to run it 2 - 4 times in a row until it reports no issues found. Always remember to backup the registry when prompted, at least for the first run in the round. Sadly, you did not tell us what the entry is so we can't help there. You should be able to determine which program it belongs to - but I would not be too hasty in removing it, not until you find out what it is, and why it cannot be moved.
I should have made note of the entry. I just run it 4 times but there were no issues with the registry; the other scan probably reported it once and that was the end of it. Oh well, It was a learner for me. Thanx again

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