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What does WhattheTech think of XPY?


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#1 mcaren

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 08:39 PM

I was browsing through some open source programs and came across "XPY" -- their "about" section reads:

Small tool which disables the default threats of a Windows XP installation. Besides disabling Windows and some of its components to communicate with Microsoft servers, xpy improves privacy settings and your system�s security.


Here's the link...

http://xpy.whyeye.org/about/

(Although most of what I read urges anyone running XP to keep up with all MS updates, I found after building my last computer (for myself) that it just wasn't practical to do so. I spent hours on the phone with MS tech reps trying to resolve endless stop errors -- about 6 different ones, and all pointed to probable hardware issues. I went through three motherboards (two identical, one completely different) as suggested by MS. MS finally listed my case as "resolved" after they told me I needed to take it to a repair shop.

I was convinced that since this same system ran Kubuntu Linux flawlessly that the problem might have something to do with XP. Tried fresh installs, updating and rolling back drivers, etc. Nothing worked; crashed anywhere from 5 - 15 times a day. Until I read an article on someone's experience with uninstalling many Windows updates, disabling some of the XP services, and changing many automatic services to manual. The article also suggested adding several login profiles that run different services on each.

After implementing many of these suggestions and making it a habit to use anti-virus/malware programs religiously, I now have a computer that runs XP without crashing. I'm trying to find time to gradually add services back to see if I can figure out what the problem was (although it might be a combination of things).

I worry a bit about not using all of the security updates (I've got SP1 & 2), but don't use IE, do use an encrypted router, and don't always stay connected to the internet. I still get mostly low-level threat notices in the security programs I run, which is what was happening before I abbreviated XP. I use Linux when I can -- but my children like Windows games, so I can't give it up entirely... )


Anyway, I wondered if any of you were familiar with this product, and if so, what you thought about it. If it helped, and didn't create a bigger security threat, it sounds like it may save some time -- for people like me anyway... Thanks. mcaren

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#2 tallin

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 09:53 PM

Hi mcaren,

Welcome to WTT. Hope you enjoy this great forum and contribute where you can.

To answer your subject heading "What does WhatTheTech think of XPY". I can only comment personally as will all other members - I would not install the software on my PC or Laptop and would not recommend it be installed in any thread I answer. Adding to that I have two perfectly tuned running computers here both up to date with all MS Updates set to "notify me but do not automatically install" in Windows Updates.

Suggest you run the PCPitstop Full Tests, here:
http://www.pcpitstop.com
Register and create a password
Accept the ActiveX component to allow your machine to run the Full Tests
Registering and accepting the ActiveX are both SAFE and FREE.
Full Tests is the first item in the left hand column of that page.

The Full Tests take about 2-3 minutes for most machines.
Once you have your Results, please post the TechExpress Link back here into this thread for review. http://forums.pcpits...php?showforum=6
OR here onto this forum.
TechExpress is the last item on the list in the yellow box in upper right area of any Results page.
Post the entire URL link information.

Kind regards and once again welcome

Edited by tallin, 12 October 2007 - 09:54 PM.


#3 mcaren

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Posted 13 October 2007 - 09:34 PM

Thank you Tallin. What a cool website! That was very helpful -- I can't wait to try some of the advice given for performance.

I wasn't sure whether or not I was supposed to start a new thread with the PC PitStop results or add it as a reply...

http://www.pcpitstop...G8KHW0ZJXVSRBSV

I hope that's the correct way to show the URL.

I'm curious (if you're the same one that will review this reply) if you can tell from the test results whether not keeping up with Windows updates and killing lots of processes has severely impacted my computer's security. (I see PC PitStop's security recommendations [esp. for IE settings (which I don't use, but should completely disable/remove?) and Firefox settings -- but don't necessarily see that these shortcomings would have been avoided by installing the updates.)

I can see where advising people to install updates is probably the easiest and most convenient way to keep an XP machine that uses IE secure. On the other hand, have I compromised anything obvious by not running those updates -- especially if I can remove IE?

Thanks again for your suggestions. mcaren

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Posted 13 October 2007 - 10:06 PM

Thank you Tallin. What a cool website! That was very helpful -- I can't wait to try some of the advice given for performance.

I wasn't sure whether or not I was supposed to start a new thread with the PC PitStop results or add it as a reply...

http://www.pcpitstop...G8KHW0ZJXVSRBSV

I hope that's the correct way to show the URL.

I'm curious (if you're the same one that will review this reply) if you can tell from the test results whether not keeping up with Windows updates and killing lots of processes has severely impacted my computer's security. (I see PC PitStop's security recommendations [esp. for IE settings (which I don't use, but should completely disable/remove?) and Firefox settings -- but don't necessarily see that these shortcomings would have been avoided by installing the updates.)

I can see where advising people to install updates is probably the easiest and most convenient way to keep an XP machine that uses IE secure. On the other hand, have I compromised anything obvious by not running those updates -- especially if I can remove IE?

Thanks again for your suggestions. mcaren


Hi mcaren',

You have done well with posting your link - here is fine. If it needs to be moved Doug or another more senior will move it.

There is a lot to be done, so I have asked Doug who is a Tech Team Member here on WTT and is more familiar with PCPitstop tests than I. He will give you the very best guidance. Please have patience as it is Sunday, he is busy, but will get to you I know as soon as your turn comes around.

In the meantime you can begin by defragging your drives, and reducing unwanted software from Add and Remove. You can also click on the tune-up tips safely and follow any of the tips with safety while you are waiting for Doug.

Do you have a maintenance program? ie, Antispyware/virus software, temporary file cleaner to keep your system free of internet nasties. If you have not post back to me now and I will help you with recommending programs to download and install to clean up your system.

kind regards,

Edited by tallin, 14 October 2007 - 12:31 AM.


#5 mcaren

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Posted 14 October 2007 - 12:13 AM

Thanks again Tallin! I have been pretty neglectful about tweaking this particular computer (I built it as a game computer for my children -- and it's been the dumping ground for old hard drives & all sorts of "I'll get to that eventually" stuff). My brother (a programmer) occasionally visits and installs various flavors of Linux -- (hence the nearly full c:\ drive -- I'd left him tons of room in hopes that I'd not use Windows that much, and ran out of space before I remembered that I had tons of unpartitioned room left... -- just forgetful...). I've got a 500 GB hard drive that I haven't filled -- just need to make time to move some things around... I keep Avast & Spybot running, and try to run scans a few times a week (with the occasional scan in safe mode). I've installed Nodezilla and use it most of the time, but have noticed some slowing down and odd behavior (as if some processes are still running that shouldn't be -- my desktop icons will not show their "real" icons (just the blank generic ones) unless I end a svchost.exe or two). I'm not sure if Nodezilla is causing the problem or not. I used to run Ad-Aware; can't remember why I haven't done that lately (I may have even removed it) -- I've got four computers running in our house and I tend to neglect three of them while one has my attention... I have to admit that for the last week I've been sidetracked while working on someone's old computer (I've got a post in the HiJack This forum -- a WhattheTech advisor (Blade81) stated that it is one of the most infected machines he or she has ever seen). Seeing what is lurking on that machine has certainly given me the motivation to keep more on top of my own -- yikes! Thank you for passing on my report to Doug -- I appreciate any advice, but don't want to rush him or anyone else -- I was just curious about what WhattheTech people thought about what I've done to my Windows setup and whether or not it was advisable. I'd like to keep my computer as safe as I can, but sure do enjoy the stability I've had since I got rid of those updates (and some processes). In the meantime I'll take your advice on cleaning up and tuning my computer -- thanks, and have a good weekend. mcaren

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Posted 14 October 2007 - 01:53 PM

Hi Mcaren,

Interesting commentary that you've developed here.
For doing any work on your machine, please open a New Topic in our Software - Microsoft Windows Forum, here:
http://forums.whatth...ndows_f119.html

Post a brief statement of what you wish to do and the TechExpress from a fresh PCPitstop Full Tests, to reflect what you may already have accomplished.

We'll catch up to you over there. :)

Best Regards,
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#7 mcaren

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 02:19 PM

Thanks! mcaren

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