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Post #1
Hi, as you can see over here, the user account- and services windows uses five minutes to open, but the rest of the computer is fine
Post #2
First thing to consider it to UpGrade to XP SP2, and acquire all other critical updates and patches. Next thing to consider is the number of applications and programs you have running from startup in the slow loading user account. You can get a good idea of what is being loaded at StartUp in that user account by going to your System Configuration Utility (MSCONFIG)… And you can turn off (disable) items that you don't want or rarely use. START - RUN (type)MSCONFIG - click on StartUp(tab) START - RUN (type)MSCONFIG - click on Services(tab) Note: Disabling Microsoft Services can cause huge problems, if you don't know what you're doing, so you may want to stick to disabling only unwanted non-Microsoft Services. An exception to this caution may be Microsoft "indexing service" which can slow down a machine and may not be necessary for your use of the machine. Best Regards
Post #3
Hi, Dough
I think you didn't understand what I ment, the actual window of services found in :Controll Panel/Administrative tools
And the window where you change your user account, and some other windows.

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Post #4
Your are right. I misunderstood your statement.
I may still be not understanding what you're dealing with.
But here's a couple of "general" information articles with specific step-by-step solutions offered for possibly similiar or related kinds of slow-down problems.

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p…5462abff0f313e6

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p…9a6a36fdc6029ac

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p…2333c93bf35ca72

Best Regards
Post #6
Hi again, Dough Sorry for not explaining it good enough, I'll go as detailed as I can. By the way the logon screen is changed back to the normal again you'll see why. If I start any program like IE or if I open my computer, it will respond emediatly, but if I go: start, Controll panel, administrative tools, services or: start, accesories, system tools, back turner (don't know the word in english so I tried to come up with something) those windows will not respond emediatly, they will come up after one minute or so. They do open, but it takes a lot of time, it was also like that with the window wich you open in: Start, controll panel, user accounts.
Post #7 last edited
Hi Unox, That does seem slow, but I don't understand how that is a major problem all by itself. The owner/user (you) shouldn't have to use those functions very often. What symptoms and problems is your machine having, that makes you want to use those functions? If you tell us the problem (what you can't make the computer do) and some information about the computer (brand, model), then maybe we can suggest some solutions. You're doing just fine with your explanations. I admire that your are able to write to us in English and wish I was able to speak/write in your language to make it a little easier for you. Alas, I only speak English. :( "Back turner"…. are you referring to System Restore? Just a thought… Does your machine have any "third-party" software, like Norton/Symantec which also is working on System Restore/go-back functions. Might there be a conflict there? If you don't have Norton/Symantec, then just ignore this last comment. Best Regards Edit: I'm wondering if your machine has suffered any corruption of Operating System files? It does happen in the ordinary course of using the machine from time to time. What Operating System are you running? Windows XP, 98, ME, 2000? Run your System File Checker to make sure all the Windows files are correct. Start - Run - (type)sfc /scannow
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HI again You know, it's not that big of a problem, but I thought there must be a reason for the sudden change. I'm not using the services that much, but sometimes I have to because I switched between two different wirless network cards, The Wirless Zero Configuration, rather than that I don't use it much. Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1 Scan saved at 19:33:32, on 22.08.2006 Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600) MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.5450.0004) The computer is a Dell Dimension 4600, but upgraded a little bit. The so called "back turner" is System restore, just didn't remember it. By the way I have a Symantec product (Norton Internet Security 2006), but it is no such program as you described I scanned the system, nothing appeared after it, by the way if I just wrote sfc, a dos window would open but disapear shortly so I had to write cmd in "Run" and then do it
Post #9
Hi Unox,

the command for SFC in XP is: "sfc /scannow" (without the quotation marks)
It shouldn't require and additional typing of the command "Run".
If it does, then you may have a missing or corrupt .dll in your C:\windows\system32 folder.

Run the "sfc /scannow" again. (it is a non-destructive utility that can clean up your operating system periodically)

Next:
Clean up your temporary and temporary internet files.

Here's a complete routine to manually do that:
To clean out all the temporary files and cookies on your system.
Go to
Start - Run - (type) "cleanmgr" without the quotes.
Let it scan your system for files to remove.
Check these three boxes and then press ok to remove:
Temporary Files,
Temporary Internet Files,
Recycle Bin.

Then GoTo:
Start - Find/search - Files or folders - in the named box, type: *.tmp
When the list is generated, choose
Edit - select all - File - delete.

Note: If you cannot delete them all at once because you have too many, then click and hold ctrl and highlight a batch of them at a time. Once highlighted, R-click over the highlight and select delete.

Then use
Start - Run - (type) "%temp%" (without the quotes).
Delete the entire contents of that "temp" folder
(use Edit - Select All - press "Delete", click "Yes").

Then,
Empty your Temporary Internet Cache completely.
Close all instances of Outlook and Internet Explorer,
then use "Control Panel - Internet Options - General tab and click the "Delete File" button.
When prompted place a check in: "Delete all offline content", then click OK.

Then, use Windows Explorer to clean out ALL the other temp folders on your system
(navigate to the folder, (as listed below)
use "Edit - Select All", press "Delete", click "Yes"

* C:\Documents and Settings\\Local Settings\Temp\
* C:\Documents and Settings\\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\
* C:\Documents and Settings\\Local Settings\Temp\

* C:\Windows\Prefetch\

* Empty your "Recycle Bin".

Note: This is a long manual way to clear out .tmp files. It is safe and highly recommended.

Eventually you may wish to use a "tool" to do this procedure for you on a regular basis.
Download: CleanUp! 4.50 from http://www.stevengould.org
Read about all the options for using this device and use it only after you are satisfied that you understand what it will do for you. I use it regularly, and have a squeaky clean computer as a result. I recommend the default setting that are set during installation.


After doing the above routines, do this separate cleaning of your ActiveX, applets and Java routines:
GoTo:
Control Panel - JAVA - (this will open your JAVA Control Panel)
(in some cases the steps might be Control Panel - JAVA plugins)

Once your JAVA Control Panel is open, you will see a Button down toward the bottom of that panel labeled "Delete Files"
Click - Delete Files - OK, Then close your JAVA Control Panel and Reboot.

Note: The current version of JAVA Runtime Environment is Version 8. If you are running an older version, there are specific "vulnerabilities" that have corrected in Version 8. Recommended: Use Add/Remove to "completely" uninstall your Current JAVA Runtime Environment. Then go to C:\Program Files and Delete the entire Folder of JAVA. Then install the newest version of JAVA Runtime Environment. Get it here:
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

Please note that in doing the above routines, you will "lose" any auto-login settings that Window has saved for you regarding Websites that you visit that require Username and Password to access the site, and any ActiveX scripts necessary to interact with the Website.

This is not a problem, since you will merely be required to "re-enter" your Username and Password the next time you visit any such site. (for instance, Here at TomCoyote) Or you will be asked to download a fresh copy of any required ActiveX. After that, Windows will again remember the settings for you and you will be able to auto-login again.

It's a good idea to clear up these features on a fairly regular basis, for a couple of reasons. First, ActiveX and applet routines occasionally become corrupted and can be infected with some malwares. Second, temporary internet files are often the first entry point of spyware/malware.

Please let us know of your progess and any continuing symptoms or problems.

I'm glad that you've decided to be a Member here at TomCoyote.

Best Regards
Post #12
AAARGH!!! Just recieved the symptoms again, and I think the problem is the same for MSN. It must be something I always install, since I've had it many times now. Can you please help me locate it? :scratch:
Post #14 last edited
PROBLEM SOLVED! :D
While fixing my MSN problem
I also solved this problem.

:weee: :) :D :lol:
I fixed it!

MS support finally gave me the answer.

I'll transelate it as good as I can and put it here if anyone else run into the same thing.

Forsøk å logge på Web Messenger med samme konto som du bruker for å logge på MSN Messenger. For å gjøre dette:

Åpne et Internet Explorer vindu.
Gå til http://webmessenger.msn.com .
Klikk på "Start Web Messenger" og logg på.





Hvis du blir logget på Web Messenger uten problemer fortsett til steg 6.





Hvis du støter på en e-postadresse eller passord relatert feilmelding gå til http://login.live.com/ og tilbakestill ditt passord. For å gjøre dette, klikk "Har du glemt passordet", og følg stegene som blir gitt videre derfra.





Start MSN Messenger. For å skrive inn e-postadresse og passord på ny, klikk "Logg på".

I Messenger hovedvinduet, finn din e-postadresse fra "E-postadresselisten". Velg din adresse og klikk på "Glem meg". Klikk på "Ja" i vinduet for "Du er i ferd med å slette din påloggingsinformasjon for MSN Messenger. Det kan bli lagt til igjen senere. Er du sikker på at du ønsker å gjøre dette?".
Skriv inn din e-postadresse i boksen for "E-postadresse" og ditt passord i boksen for "Passord", og klikk så "Logg på" igjen.
Hvis du fremdeles mottar en feilmelding fortsett til stegene nedenfor.





Bekreft dato og tidsinnstillinger på din datamaskin:


a. Klikk Start, klikk Kjør og skriv inn CONTROL timedate.cpl og trykk så "ENTER".


b. Bekreft at dato ogtidsinnstillinger er korrekt.





Registrer sikkerhets Dll filer på ny:


a. Klikk på "Start", klikk på "Kjør" og skriv inn CMD og trykk så "Enter".


b. Etter hver kommando er fullført så vil du få en beskjed som sier "DllRegisterServer fullført". Vent til du mottar denne beskjeden før du går til neste kommando.


REGSVR32 softpub.dll


REGSVR32 wintrust.dll


REGSVR32 initpki.dll


REGSVR32 Rsaenh.dll


REGSVR32 Mssip32.dll


REGSVR32 Cryptdlg.dll


REGSVR32 Dssenh.dll


REGSVR32 Gpkcsp.dll


REGSVR32 Slbcsp.dll


REGSVR32 Sccbase.dll





Registrer MSXML bibliotekene på ny

Klikk på "Start", klikk på "Kjør" og skriv inn REGSVR32 MSXML3.dll og trykk "Enter".
Hvis kommandoen blir suksessfullt fullført så vil du motta en melding som sier "DllRegisterServer fullført".


c. Hvis det feiler fortsett til steg 9.d og hvis suksessfullt gå til Steg 10.


d. Installer MSXML3 på ny ved å gå til http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details…;displaylang=en (kun på Engelsk).


e. På bunnen av siden klikk på linken tilhørende "msxml3.msi" og gå gjennom veiviseren for å fullføre installasjonen.





Fjern proxy innstillinger i Internet Explorer og Messenger.


NB: Hvis du er koblet til gjennom et firmanettverk, kontakt systemadministrator for å sørge for at dine innstillinger er korrekt.



Start Microsoft Internet Explorer.
På "Verktøy" menyen, klikk "Alternativer for internett" og klikk deretter fanen "Tilkobling".
Klikk på "LAN innstillinger" og fjern markeringen for "Automatisk oppdag innstillinger" og "Bruk en Proxy Server.".


Hvis du er koblet til gjennom et firmanettverk, kontakt systemadministrator for å sørge for at dine innstillinger er korrekt.



Klikk "OK" to ganger for å lagre endringene.
Start MSN Messenger og klikk på "Verktøy" menyen fulgt av "Alternativer", klikk så "Tilkobling" og deretter "Avanserte innstillinger".
Hvis du har oppføringer under "SOCKS" tilkobling, klikk på "Test" for å sørge for at du har riktig informasjon for en SOCKS server tilkobling. Hvis du er koblet til gjennom et firmanettverk, kontakt systemadministrator for å sørge for at dine innstillinger er korrekt..
Klikk "OK" to ganger for å lagre endringene.





MSN Messenger kan være blokkert av en brannmur. For å få stegene for å tillate Messenger gjennom de mest brukte brannmurene, gå til


http://messenger-support.spaces.live.com/b…!3772.entry (kun på Engelsk)





Utfør følgende for Internet Explorer innstillinger:

Start Microsoft Internet Explorer.
Sørg for at Internet Explorer IKKE er satt til å jobbe frakoblet. I Internet Explorer klikk på "Fil" mnyen og sørg for at det ikke er markert for "Jobb Frakoblet".



På "Verktøy" menyen, klikk "Alternativer" for internett".
Klikk fanen "Generelt".



Under "Midlertidige internett filer", klikk på "Slett filer".
Marker for "Slett frakoblet innhold" og klikk "OK".
I vinduet for "Alternativer for internett", klikk fanen "Innhold".
Under "Sertifikater", klikk "Tøm SSL Status".
Når du mottar en melding som sier at SSL cache ble suksessfult tømt, klikk "OK".
Klikk på fanen "Avansert" og klikk så "Gjenopprett Standarder".
Klikk "OK" for å lukke vinduet for "Alternativer for internett".





Tøm oppføring i vertsfilen:

Klikk "Start", klikk "Kjør" og skriv inn %windir%\system32\drivers\etc


Og trykk så "ENTER".



I Microsoft Windows Explorer mappevinduet som åpnes, se etter Vertstfilen (Hosts filen).
Høyreklikk på filen, klikk "Åpne med" og klikk så "Notepad".
Slett enhver oppføring som er relatert til passport.com domenet, slik som Loginnet.passport.com, LoginMSNIA.passport.com, eller Login.passport.com, passport.net
Lagre og lukk Vertsfilen.





Tøm DNS cache:

Klikk "Start", klikk "Kjør" og skriv inn cmd og trykk så "Enter".
I command prompt, skriv inn ipconfig /flushdns og trykk "Enter". Denne kommandoen fjerner alle DNS oppføringer som har vært lagret.


c. Logg på MSN Messenger igjen.


Get the newest version of messenger.

1. Log on to check if the problem still is there

2. Try logging onto Webmessenger which can be found here: http://webmessenger.msn.com/

3. If it works go onto nr. 5

4. If you get a password related error go onto http://login.live.com/ and reset your password.

5. Start MSN/WLM write your e-mail and password and log on.
a. In the main window delete your e-mail, choose "forget me" and follow the steps.
b. Write your e-mail and password and log on.
c. If it still doesn't work continue down.

6. Confirm the date and time settings
a. Click Start > Run > write 
CONTROL timedate.cpl
> press "ENTER"
b. Confirm that the settings are correct.

8. Register safety DLL files again:
a. Click Start > Run > write 
CMD
> press "ENTER"
b. After every command you'll get a confirmation. Wait for this message before you go on to the next command.

REGSVR32 softpub.dll 


REGSVR32 wintrust.dll 


REGSVR32 initpki.dll 


REGSVR32 Rsaenh.dll 


REGSVR32 Mssip32.dll 


REGSVR32 Cryptdlg.dll 


REGSVR32 Dssenh.dll 


REGSVR32 Gpkcsp.dll 


REGSVR32 Slbcsp.dll 


REGSVR32 Sccbase.dll

8.Register the MSXML registries again
a. Start > Run > write 
REGSVR32 MSXML3.dll
> press "ENTER"
b. If it's succesfully don you'll get a confirmation
c. If it still fails go onto 8.d, if succcesfull go onto nr 10
d. Install MSXML3 again goto: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details…;displaylang=en] http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details…;displaylang=en
e. On the bottom of the page click on the link: msxml3.msi and follow the steps.

9. Remove the proxy settings in IE and MSN/WLM
a. Start IE (Internet Explorer)
b. On the "tools" menu, click "alternates for internet" > Connections.
c. Click "LAN settings" > remove the mark for "Automatically detect settings" and "use a Proxy Server"
d. Click "OK" twice to save the changes.
e. Start MSN/WLM > click "tools" > "alternates" > "connection" > "advanced settings"
f. If you have something undes "SOCKS" > click "Test" to make sure it works.
g. Click "OK" twice to save.

10. MSN/WLM can be blocked by a firewall, go here to allow msn with the most firewalls http://messenger-support.spaces.live.com/b…!3772.entry

11. Do this in IE
a. Start IE
b. Make sure IE isn't set to work in disconnected mode.
In the "File" menu make sure "Work disconnected" is not marked.

a. On the "tools" menu > click "alternates for internet"
b. Click "general"

c. If IE 6: "Temporarly internet files" > "delete files".
d. Mark "remove disconnected files" > "OK"
e. In the "Alternates for internet" window, click "content"
f. Under "sertificates", click "Delete SSL Status"
g. "OK"
h. Click "Advanced" > "Restore standard settings"
i. Click "OK"

12. Delete the hostfile:
a. Click "Start" > "Run" > write 
%windir%\system32\drivers\etc
> "ENTER"
b. In Windows Explorer look for the "hosts" file.
c. Right click on it > "open with" > choose "notepad".
d. Delete everything which is related to passport.com like Loginnet.passport.com or LoginMSNIA.passport.com
e. Save and close the hostfile.

13. Empty DNS cahche:
a. click "Start" > "Run" > write 
CMD
> "ENTER"
b. In Command Prompt, write 
ipconfig /flushdns
> "ENTER"
c. Logg onto MSN/WLM

Post #15
Congratulations Unox! You've been working hard on this problem since August. I am so very glad that you have found a solution. Thanks for posting back with the good news! Doug

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