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WiFi Extender for FIOS home network - G1100 Router

WiFi Extender G1100 Router FIOS

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#1 solo58

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 02:59 PM

Help, one of the bedrooms in our house on the third floor, does not get good wifi reception.  We need to find an appropriate WiFi extender.  

We use FIOS internet service - 50 mbps u/l - 50 mps d/l.  

The G1100 Gateway router (with 802.11ac) is on the first floor.  The room that has a problem is on the second floor about 800 ft away. 

FIOS offers an extender for $120 - but I'm thinking that's pretty high.  

Verizon's technical team does not recommend any extenders outside of the Verizon suite of products - naturally. 

I could upgrade the router to a G1100 WiFi6 router - but that's $310.  

And since I don't need blazing speed (45 mbps - seems to work fine for us - as we are not gamers) a simpler extender might do the trick.

What do you suggest? What are key considerations technically? 


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#2 solo58

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 03:00 PM

Sorry, that upgrade would be to a G3100 router for $310. 



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Posted 17 December 2020 - 11:20 AM

The room that has a problem is on the second floor about 800 ft away. 

 

800 feet! As in nearly 3 football fields away? In the same house?

 

Plus, I note you talk about a bedroom on the "third" floor but the room with the problem is on the "second" floor. And then the gateway is on the first floor. That does not sound like the best place for the gateway device. 

 

Most range extenders are lucky to reach 300 yards (900 feet) "line-of-sight". That is, when there are no barriers (walls, floors, ceilings, furniture, book cases, filing cabinets, etc.) in the way. And that is assuming thin barriers with no wires or pipes within. 

 

You may need to look at power line adapters or a whole house "mesh" system. And a professional consultation if the home is really that big. An IT consultant will evaluate your coverage needs, the building construction, and the best placement for your gateway device (central, high up locations tend to be best), and the best place for your remote repeaters/extender locations. It might be best to wire the building with Ethernet. 


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#4 solo58

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 06:34 PM

Ok...so maybe that was a VERY bad guess for distances.

The total house is only 1500 sq ft. and that's spread through three floors (one is the basement).  

To be clear: the current G1100 router is on the first floor.

The bedroom that is unable to connect with the router is on the second floor. 

As a crow flies it would be 50 ft  from the router(but it has to go through the floor and through two walls. 

The consideration is:

1.  To replace the current G1100 router with a G3100 router - which Verizon says has 150% better range - cost $310

2.  Add an netgear mesh extender (again from Verizon) for $150

3.  Add a belkin extender (again from Verizon) for $300. 



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Posted 17 December 2020 - 06:35 PM

I understand the Belkin extender will cut the bandwidth in half. 

The mesh extender will cut the bandwidth by 10%



#6 Digerati

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Posted 18 December 2020 - 11:19 AM

Yeah, that is why Mesh networks are becoming so popular. 

 

As a crow flies it would be 50 ft  from the router

With your house being three stories, I suspect 50 feet is still an extreme over-estimate. My house is a 2200sq foot "raised ranch" - that is, two stories with the main level on top. And the house only measures about 45 feet wide by 25 feet deep. So 50 feet from anywhere in the house would put me outside in the cold! 

 

So with my house being just two stories, it has a larger "footprint" on my lot which means the distance from one end to the other is more than yours - since your house has 3 stories and is not quite as big. Your house is surely taller, but not as wide. But even so, typical walls are 8 feet tall. And typical floors are about 12 inches thick. So unless you have 20 foot ceilings, each level on your home is probably around 9 - 10 feet tall. 

 

My modem and wireless router (also 11ac) are located on a shelf, in the middle of the top floor. I have no problem with wireless access anywhere, including the furthest distances in the lower level - which involve one floor and 3 walls. 

 

So again, if you can move your WAP (wireless access point - typically integrated with a wireless router or gateway) to a central location in the middle of the house on the 2nd floor, that might solve all your problems without having to buy anything new. This is especially true since you already have an 11ac device which should give you plenty of range - at least on the 2.4GHz band. 

 

If you do end up buying new network equipment, I would start with just the new router and see if that resolves your problem. Unless you have very thick, concrete walls and floors/ceilings, you should not need an extender. And unless you still have a bunch of kids in the house - all hogging bandwidth with their own devices - I would not worry about bandwidth either. 

 

It is also important to note that communications is a two-way street. Very often the problem is not the WAP, but the network adapter on the distant computer or other wireless device. Often, just switching to something like this adapter can cure all. 

 

BTW, since you live in the US, you might want to check your Verizon contract. Typically you do not have to buy (or rent) your network equipment from your provider. You can buy your own from another retailer - which is what I do. If you rent the device, you end up paying for it over and over again in rental fees. If you buy from them, you typically pay more than what you would from Amazon, Walmart or Best Buy. Most ISPs maintain a list of compatible devices. 

 

That said, if you do get it from them, they provide the tech support. So do what you are most comfortable with. 


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Posted 18 December 2020 - 02:57 PM

Many thanks.  Very valuable. 


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