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[Tomk]

OOps.... I forgot your treat.

In honor of Halloween.... you get a popcorn ball.

[terry1966]

yep that's where i went wrong, my excuse got a splitting headache and had it all day so brains a bit fuzzy. only one? or are they a lot bigger than normal popcorn?

Edited by terry1966, 01 November 2011 - 01:31 PM.

[Tomk]

It's a bunch of popcorn held together by candy. It's about 4" diameter.

[terry1966]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm thangs. (mouthful) mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[otisx]

Congrats Terry1966 TomK I have a question. What is the reason to bring a full load each time? And if the pit is 60 x 720 x 480 inches is that full loads exactly being carried?. In my thinking if i am not loading, transporting and spreading a full load the time will not be the same as if if it were a full load. Explain please how the solution was attained of time.

[terry1966]

What is the reason to bring a full load each time?

probably they only sell 1/2 and full loads so if someone needs 0.89 of a load they have to buy a full load.

And if the pit is 60 x 720 x 480 inches is that full loads exactly being carried?.

no that's the total amount of rock needed.
you were correct with the 48 full loads and the 0.88888889 part last load.

In my thinking if i am not loading, transporting and spreading a full load the time will not be the same as if if it were a full load.

Explain please how the solution was attained of time.

to be accurate you'd need to know the time it took to load a full load, the time it took to empty a full load, leaving you the driving time out of the 31 minutes. which is the biggest part. eg. 2 minutes to load 3 minutes to unload 26 minutes driving.

now the last load was(or should of been) 0.88888889 % full but doesn't mean it took 0.88888889 of 31 minutes to complete because the driving time was the same as a full load and the biggest part of the 31 minutes.

now because we didn't have the load/ unload times we logically have to assume it takes the same amount of time to fill/empty a part full truck as a full one.

the truck cannot make a 0.88888889 part of a round trip it has to complete a round trip a to b back to a therefore it needs to be round up to the 49. so 49 x 31=time.

hope i explained that so it's understood, i got lost while typing, my headache still not fully gone.

Edited by terry1966, 01 November 2011 - 06:10 PM.

[otisx]

Thanks I think I got it now.

[Tomk]

Terry's explanation basically covered it. In full truthfulness there are some slight logic miscues in the criteria. I was digging the rock out of a hillside with an excavator and loading it into a dump truck. The loads were not perfect 10 cy. In reality I put 17 scoops of material in each truck which basically filled it which should be about 10 cy. When I spread the rock on the road... I started at the closest point so each load actually takes a little longer than the one before it. The time I gave was an average. I did not spread the rock to perfectly 2" depth and perfectly 10 ft wide, nor was the distance exactly 1.5 miles. From the truck, I can actually only spread the rock 8 ft wide. After I had hauled all of the rock, I finished spreading the material with a little dozer. However, the "trick" to this exercise is to correctly deal with the material swell (which otisx had no problem with) and recognize the difference between amount of material required and number of trips required. This exercise, using assumed theoretical criteria, is quite similar to what an estimator would do if he were putting together a bid for this project. I hope you all enjoyed this week exercise. It was fun for me.

[terry1966]

i enjoy them every week as thick as i am.. and even tho i've dug a few trenches i never really thought about swell and now i know why it always looked more at the side of the hole than the hole itself. thanks tomk.

Edited by terry1966, 01 November 2011 - 09:33 PM.

[Elizabeth Clare]

Alls I can say to Y'alls is: oh stzu kah-ray sama deh-shta ! domo a-ree gatoh Subarashi sensei !!

[Tomk]

[oldman960]

Japanese as we would hear it?

[Elizabeth Clare]

Yes oldman960, I "phonetically" spelled out the phrases so that any English speaker could read the words as they see them and be more or less understood by any Japanese speaker.

oh stzu kah-ray sama deh-shta !
This is what internationally reknown Japanese director Tadashi Suzuki says to all of his students at the end of each rigorous training session as he bows to his group in deep respect. The students return the bow and respectfully mirror this deeply respectful gesture and repeat the phrase back to him.

Essentially, it is the teacher and student(s) using two congruent, equally & significantly respectful verbal & non-verbal expressions to acknowledge one another with honor for a job well done.

** **

The act of bowing signifies the acknowledgement of devine presence within another person(s).

domo a-ree ga toh
This means "thank you very much".

Subarashi sensei !!
This means "great teachers" and intended specifically to refer to the following "sensei-posters":

oldman960-san (Mr. oldman960)
Terry1966-san (Mr. Terry1966)
otisx-san (Mr. otisx)
AND
with, of course, particular reference to TomK-san (Mr. TomK), our sensei EXTRAORDINAIRE !!)

FYI: "san" is a word {pronounced "sahn"} and is used as a sign of respect by tacking the word on to the end of someone's name. It doesn't matter if the person is male or female -- even though most translations of this word would indicate that it means "Mr." - however - it represents a significantly higher degree of respect than our American word "Mr." would denote. Interestingly, the fact that most Japanese would translate the word to mean "Mr." in lieu of "Ms., Mrs., or Miss" is testimony to the fact that "san" denotes a higher degree of respect than our "Mr." because in traditional AND contemporary Japanese culture, females are by FAR the subserviant sex who, in fact, recognize the "prestigeous" elevation to the title of "Mr." {san} and relish the sight & sound of their name being dubbed with such a respected suffix title!

[terry1966]

females are by FAR the subserviant sex

until you get them home..

[oldman960]

Johnny Yune, a Korean-American comedian explained it like this. In Korea the woman walks 10 feet behind the man. In America they walk all over the man.