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#16 Nahumi

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 06:13 AM

I agree with Lee, The pressure between the graphics chip and the heatsink will suitable spread the TIM. Chances are you probably put it on too thick (yes, even though you used a knife to spread it). But, to be perfectly honest, I think may just have to admit that the card probably isn't new. My 8600GT eventually overheated after two years of moderate use. Considering that the 8 Series has been out of production for a fair few years now, this may be the case. Are you 100% sure that the card was new? Was it in the original box, was it sealed and did it contain all the documents and CDs? Did the card have any dust on it, was it in a sealed protective environment? (Usually a anti-static bag)
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Posted 14 February 2011 - 08:21 AM

Hi based on my specs

What should the voltages be in bios: CPU,RAM, Chipset etc?



Maybe thats why my card is overheating. If i get this sorted my build will be FINISHED!!!


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Posted 14 February 2011 - 01:22 PM

What should the voltages be in bios: CPU,RAM, Chipset etc?

1.32V

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:10 PM

Thanks I didn't want to put the voltages on this page cuz it would be off topic. By the way is there a way to stop the mobo from restarting when a cpu or gpu temp goes too high? My Celeron runs at 2.1 underclocked at 1.32 AND IS REACHING BIOS TEMPS of 50 up. Cheers.
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Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:14 PM

Tried already.


Maybe the thermal paste not working properly? I made a pea shape on the core then used a blunt blade to spread. Its really thin. But it is what others say to do though...


I'd be very interested to know the internert address leading to the (dangerous) advice to use tin-foil to reduce temps. (?)
With thermal paste, what you want is about a grain of rice (tiny bit lager maybe) sized dollop right in the middle of the surface. Not spread.

For better video card fan control performance, I'd recommend what I use (for gaming): EVGA Precision v2.0.0
http://downloads.gur...nload-2611.html

System requirements:
- Windows XP, Windows Vista or Windows 7 (both x86 and x64 versions) with full
administrative rights
- NVIDIA 6, 7, 8, 9, 200 and 400 series graphics card
- NVIDIA ForceWare 96.xx or higher drivers

Enable and tick "User defined software and auto. fan control" (safe). Do NOT use manual control settings.
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A bit of a warning. With this software you can also overclock your VC. Try to resist, as your temps. are not good already and any overclocking will only increase the temp. and if you don't seriously know what you are doing, you can destroy your card. So please ignore that feature and stick to the auto fan control and check your new temps.

Cheers,
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Hi, tin foil idea i got from my friends. I do have alot of background in computers, i have signed up to join the NAVY as a technician.

But the pc i have at home which is playing up. I just cant figure it out. I have used 2 mobos both giving me same heat issues.

Edited by EN8400GS, 14 February 2011 - 04:00 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:18 PM

ALSO The card was NEW! BOX, manuals, case badge!, driver cd, nothing was opened!
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Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:34 PM

I have just learn't: I CANT CONTROL MY FAN!!!

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 03:09 PM

There is no need to shout here, OK?
I'll assume you are talking about your video card fan you can't control, or are you now talking about your CPU fan as well ?
Did you try the EVGA precision video card auto-fan control I suggested? You could also try "SpeedFan"
http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php which will not only give you temp. reading from all tremp. sensors, but give you fan speed control over all fans that are capable of adjustable speed control. Not all fans are, so you would have to check out what you have installed. EVGA will boost your model video card speed though, but only the video card fan.


By the way is there a way to stop the mobo from restarting when a cpu or gpu temp goes too high?

All mobos have a built in cut-out point (shut-down) to protect itself from damage above a certain temp. reading picked up by temp. sensors in the CPU and the mobo itself. Disabling these sensors would not be a wise move If you are having cut-out issues caused by overheating (there could be other causes too). You can of course disable auto-restart if that is what you meant. Doing so will not stop the PC from shutting down, but will stop it from re-starting. You then have to do a manual restart..

To disable auto-restart: http://helpdesk.wisc...age.php?id=7049

If your PC is a home build, make sure all the fans are working and that your case fans are blowing in the right direction. All sucking air in except the rear exhaust fan which should be blowing air out.

Cheers,
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#24 EN8400GS

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 03:55 PM

Sorry for the big writing but it did not mean i was shouting!!!. Yes it is a homebuilt, the fans are working ok and i tried your EVGA Precision AND speed fan but they did not work. :( Also i already have the auto restart disabled. It just enables you to view the blue screen. Mines a stop error 0x0000000A It might be my memory as my pc bluescreened today while my video card temps were at 56c
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Posted 14 February 2011 - 03:57 PM

i tried your EVGA Precision AND speed fan but they did not work. :(



I was talking about my Graphics Card fan for this.
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Posted 14 February 2011 - 04:36 PM

EN8400GS, post back to say what you've done so and we can move to the next step. (Lee's advice being to try SpeedFan. Also try to report back all the temperature's that it shows)
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Posted 14 February 2011 - 05:24 PM

the fans are working ok and i tried your EVGA Precision AND speed fan but they did not work.


When you say "did not work" I'm wondering what that means. With SpeedFan, is it showing any temps like this?:
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If so, could you please inform us what the temps. are thanks.

With EVGA, 1. Open it like so:
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Note* in the above you can see my video card fan speed is 40%. If I disable EVGA it will go to about 30% (don't adjust the clock speed sliders).
2. Click on the spanner icon at the bottom of the graph screen
3. In the box that opens Click on "Fan" tab
4. Tick "Enable software fan control" and then click "OK"
5. In the top right of the above image you will see a down arrow between a ? and a X , Click on the down arrow which will reduce EVGA to your task bar and this will Enable EVGA. Unless you do that, EVGA won't operate.
6. If you wish to enable EVGA to auto start with Windows, go to step 3. above and tick "start with windows" and "start minimised".
7. to disable EVGA, click on the icon in the task bar and click on the X in the top right corner.

Let me know if EVGA works now, as your card is listed among the cards that EVGA works with.

Cheers,
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Edited by Lee, 14 February 2011 - 05:37 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 07:10 PM

1. SpeedFan say my temps are ALL over 60c (cpu,HDD,GPU) but SIW (System Information for Windows, google it) Says my cpu: 53c, Gpu: 61c and HDD 40c Plus i have no control over the fans. I have used speedfan and found it a waste before cuz i could not do anything. Its also VERY confusing 2. On EVGA i have NO fan tab which obviously means that there are NO fan sensors of my GPU thus i cannot control the temp :( . Rivatuner and nTune do the same :'( If its any help my fan only has a red and black wire on it.

Edited by EN8400GS, 14 February 2011 - 07:12 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 09:04 PM

1. SpeedFan say my temps are ALL over 60c (cpu,HDD,GPU) but SIW (System Information for Windows, google it) Says my cpu: 53c, Gpu: 61c and HDD 40c
Plus i have no control over the fans. I have used speedfan and found it a waste before cuz i could not do anything.

I think the reason EVGA is not working with this card and there is no control in SpeedFan, is the fact you might be unaware that your Video Card 256MB ASUS nVidia EN8400GS PCI-E does not have a fan http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814121235 :o
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Read the specs., It's fanless.

I have googled this card and can find no mention of a version of it that has a fan. If one existed it would surely have a different model number. Have you actually seen the fan under the card housing, or did you just assume a fan is in there? If such a card exists with a fan, send me a link to it please.

Your card temps of 60c are about right for this model card as I've read a few threads about it and if an accessory cooler can be fitted for gaming (yes). Fanless cards are not good gaming cards and if you plan to use the PC for gaming, I'd be changing the card.

Your CPU 53c and HDD 40c temps are fine, but you could improve your temps a bit overall by adding one or two extra case fans to the (single fan only) case you have, Serious temp. reduction would cost $$$.

Cheers,
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#30 EN8400GS

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 09:49 PM

Yes my gpu does have a fan on it. Seriously you dont think i wouldn't look at the card and just say it had a fan?

I will try find a pic.


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That is EXACTLY the one, same everything.
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