Advanced System Optimizer 3 got me a buch of problems.

System Restore was the first thing i did, but didnt help at all. Seems like im going to keep my hands off from reg cleaners for a long time.

Hello Manaaja, You appear to have a fine machine with monstrously strong features! Maybe I missed something in your posted comments, but I do not know specifically what features are performing "slowly" Nor do I know what initially prompted you to use Advanced System Optimizer…. was there a problem you were trying to fix? I do realize that Advanced System Optimizer may have caused some difficulties that you are now trying to sort. But what was the initial issue you had wanted to resolve? Thanks for any comments you may be able to make to clarify the above. Doug

Hiya Doug. There were some slowdown issues and sluggishness, believe it or not. Some hardware interrupts and spikes every minute or two (at the moment). When i started the thread, they occupied ~20% of the processor and spiked ~70%. But now, its almost back to normal. Going to try the keyboard with the extension cable for a moment and see if it works (usb cable), since it didnt work too well an hour ago, thanks to ASO3. No idea why it would have fixed itself though.

System Restore was the first thing i did, but didnt help at all.

Seems like im going to keep my hands off from reg cleaners for a long time.

That was going to be my suggestion (System Restore) since the other backup options appear to have failed.
Bummer.

Thanks for using Artello's SINO to post information about your machine.
What an excellent inventory he has created! A little boggy to sort through, but comprehensive.

At first glance, two things leap out at me.

1. you seem to have (30) thirty instance of Google Chrome running active on your machine, all at the same time.
What's that all about?

2. Running Spyware Guardian and Spybot Search & Destroy "active" at the same time may be causing conflicts (detecting each other's data base and engine activities)

Other that the above, you have a few unnecessary "updaters" that I tend to remove.
And maybe your C:\ is overly large.

I like to keep a relatively small C:\ (Maybe 30-50gb) with only Windows operating system and the applications that insist upon installing there.
What is the bulk of stuff you have installed on C:\ ?

1. The 30 instances for chrome come from plugins/extensions and different tabs. 2. i've read somewhere couple months ago that you can run those two at the same time with no problems. But I have no idea what those fixes were so ill just keep it off for a while, but it still hasnt been an issue. And yeah, I tend to clean my C:\ drive every month from useless program and such. And after lan parties it tends to get quite full of useless junk. Also, C:\ contains mostly games. (faster loading times and so on.) Oh yeah, keyboard seems to work nicely for some reason, occasional hardware interrupt spikes here and there. dayam computers. magic i say.

I would also like to add that that PCPitstop shows you still have Advanced System Optimizer 3 installed,

whether or not it is reading from the registry or not I can't be sure.

I Reinstalled it when you suggested check the backups, should I uninstall it?

I Reinstalled it when you suggested check the backups, should I uninstall it?

I would.

Most "windows problems" can be fixed most effectively with native MS utilities.
Third-party utilities generally poll the ms utilities for configuration and issues, then repackage the output report and recommendations.
Just a fancy way to intrude a user GUI where one may not have been necessary, and at worst might interfere.
If you are not familiar with the specific steps, you can most often Google, and if still in need, you are welcome to post.

try running sfc /scannow let us know if it asks for the disk. Edit: Of course after you try Doug's course

Dougs course? Do you mean uninstalling ASO3 and running SINO again or what? Edit: if you mean uninstalling ASO3, that didnt change a thing.

Just a thought,.. Over heating of the CPU or graphics card may cause:

There were some slowdown issues and sluggishness, believe it or not.

Some hardware interrupts and spikes every minute or two (at the moment). When i started the thread, they occupied ~20% of the processor and spiked ~70%.

But now, its almost back to normal. Going to try the keyboard with the extension cable for a moment and see if it works (usb cable), since it didnt work too well an hour ago, thanks to ASO3.

No idea why it would have fixed itself though.

Have you had a visual inspection of the CPU Heatsink and fan?

Please download HD Tune 2.55

HD Tune can help view the temperature of your hard drive/s, next time you have these hardware interrupts and spikes,..

• Run HDTune
• select the Health Tab
• select Copy to clipboard, (for each drive)
• please paste results.

To discover the type of Errors the machine has encountered recently, use Event Viewer.

• Go to Start - Run, type eventvwr.msc, then Press Enter.
• When the Event Viewer opens, there will be two panes.
  The left pane is for event categories (Application, Security, and System).
  The right pane is for event messages (Information, Warning, and Error). (We want to find errors.)
• Left-click the Application category in the left pane and check for any error messages in the right pane, they will be in RED.
  You want to find the one(s) that occurred at the same time your system encountered the problem you have posted about.
• Repeat the previous step for each category, or until you find an appropriate error to investigate.
• Double-click the error message to bring up the information.
• Click the third button on the right side of the information window (copies information)

(These instructions are based on Windows XP, if you need additional help please don't hesitate to ask.)
Additional KB information from Microsoft:
Additional information to help interpret Error and Warning Event Types: http://www.eventid.net/

Please paste or attach this information in your next reply.


Regards,
Jkc73

Cleaned the CPU Heatsink and the GPU from dust ~1½ weeks ago, an open case needs frequent cleaning in a dusty room. GPU temp is ~47 and ~65 under load (nVidias recommendation is somewhere around 75, i think). The CPU mostly never goes over 40 celcius. Also, Upgrading BIOS to 1.15 (1.F) did nothing, doing a repair install on Windows 7 did nothing, underclocking the CPU and fiddling with voltages did nothing. Still got the issue with the keyboard, but thats propably due to the hardware interrupts. I dont even know if this theard belongs into this section anymore. :U HD Tune: ST3320620AS Health ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status (01) Raw Read Error Rate 107 90 6 13317166 Ok (03) Spin Up Time 96 95 0 0 Ok (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 559 Ok (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0 Ok (07) Seek Error Rate 72 60 30 18640168 Ok (09) Power On Hours Count 81 81 0 17512 Ok (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0 Ok (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 20 484 Ok (BB) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0 Ok (BD) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0 Ok (BE) Airflow Temperature 73 54 45 622526491 Ok (C2) Temperature 27 46 0 27 Ok (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 63 55 0 197899834 Ok (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 Ok (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok (C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0 Ok (CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0 Ok Power On Time : 17512 Health Status : Ok HD Tune: ST3500418AS Health ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status (01) Raw Read Error Rate 117 99 6 138873656 Ok (03) Spin Up Time 97 97 0 0 Ok (04) Start/Stop Count 99 99 20 1098 Ok (05) Reallocated Sector Count 99 99 36 51 Ok (07) Seek Error Rate 72 60 30 17459689 Ok (09) Power On Hours Count 91 91 0 8485 Ok (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0 Ok (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 20 163 Ok (B7) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0 Ok (B8) (unknown attribute) 100 100 99 0 Ok (BB) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0 Ok (BC) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0 Ok (BD) (unknown attribute) 99 99 0 1 Ok (BE) Airflow Temperature 77 70 45 488046615 Ok (C2) Temperature 23 40 0 23 Ok (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 39 11 0 138873656 Ok (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 Ok (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok (F0) Head Flying Hours 100 253 0 8320 Ok (F1) (unknown attribute) 100 253 0 -1223463972 Ok (F2) (unknown attribute) 100 253 0 -2036691921 Ok Power On Time : 8485 Health Status : Ok HD Tune: ST3640323AS Health ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status (01) Raw Read Error Rate 119 99 6 215843996 Ok (03) Spin Up Time 97 96 0 0 Ok (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 578 Ok (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0 Ok (07) Seek Error Rate 79 60 30 98533233 Ok (09) Power On Hours Count 81 81 0 16994 Ok (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 1 Ok (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 20 290 Ok (B8) (unknown attribute) 100 100 99 0 Ok (BB) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0 Ok (BC) (unknown attribute) 100 42 0 2425568 Ok (BD) (unknown attribute) 1 1 0 544 Ok (BE) Airflow Temperature 75 50 45 521732121 Ok (C2) Temperature 25 50 0 25 Ok (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 38 18 0 215843996 Ok (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 Ok (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 12 Ok Power On Time : 16994 Health Status : Ok HD Tune: WDC WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 Health ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status (01) Raw Read Error Rate 200 200 51 0 Ok (03) Spin Up Time 164 159 21 4758 Ok (04) Start/Stop Count 95 95 0 5504 Ok (05) Reallocated Sector Count 200 200 140 0 Ok (07) Seek Error Rate 200 200 51 0 Ok (09) Power On Hours Count 75 75 0 18381 Ok (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 51 0 Ok (0B) Calibration Retry Count 100 100 51 0 Ok (0C) Power Cycle Count 99 99 0 1280 Ok (C0) Power Off Retract Count 199 199 0 1154 Ok (C1) Load Cycle Count 140 140 0 181521 Ok (C2) Temperature 125 73 0 22 Ok (C4) Reallocated Event Count 200 200 0 0 Ok (C5) Current Pending Sector 200 200 0 0 Ok (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 200 200 0 0 Ok (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok (C8) Write Error Rate 200 200 51 0 Ok Power On Time : 18381 Health Status : Ok The last one is a external drive with no info. ————————————————————————————– From Event Viewer, these were the only ones with any connection to the Hardware Interrupts. And if a program uses the CPU, lets say ~60% of one core, hardware interrupts are most likely to take 30% of that core. Log Name: System Source: Service Control Manager Date: 25.10.2010 06:02:16 Event ID: 7036 Task Category: None Level: Information Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: Manaaja-PC Description: The WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service service entered the stopped state. Event Xml: 7036 0 4 0 0 0x8080000000000000 117191 System Manaaja-PC WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service stopped 570069006E0048007400740070004100750074006F00500072006F00780079005300760063002 F0031000000 Log Name: System Source: Service Control Manager Date: 25.10.2010 05:57:11 Event ID: 7036 Task Category: None Level: Information Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: Manaaja-PC Description: The Windows Modules Installer service entered the stopped state. Event Xml: 7036 0 4 0 0 0x8080000000000000 117190 System Manaaja-PC Windows Modules Installer stopped 540072007500730074006500640049006E007300740061006C006C00650072002F0031000000 Log Name: System Source: Service Control Manager Date: 25.10.2010 05:57:10 Event ID: 7040 Task Category: None Level: Information Keywords: Classic User: SYSTEM Computer: Manaaja-PC Description: The start type of the Windows Modules Installer service was changed from auto start to demand start. Event Xml: 7040 0 4 0 0 0x8080000000000000 117189 System Manaaja-PC Windows Modules Installer auto start demand start TrustedInstaller Log Name: System Source: Service Control Manager Date: 25.10.2010 05:57:08 Event ID: 7040 Task Category: None Level: Information Keywords: Classic User: SYSTEM Computer: Manaaja-PC Description: The start type of the Windows Modules Installer service was changed from demand start to auto start. Event Xml: 7040 0 4 0 0 0x8080000000000000 117188 System Manaaja-PC Windows Modules Installer demand start auto start TrustedInstaller

Just a wild question…. how long is your USB extension for keyboard?
Anything over 9 feet is likely to start causing problems.
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Thanks for posting the EventViewer Event ID's

Have a look here and consider following those instructions re: "Clean Boot"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/974524

If I understand your correctly, you have various game applications installed.
There's a pretty good chance that one of them has a call that is failing.

Comment for future reference if the above doesn't help…. May be related to DES Dynamic Energy Saver, which can be uninstalled and reinstalled.

USB extension is 2m (6½ feet) long, so that shouldnt be a problem. The keyboard is currently plugged directly into a usb port at the back of the computer. And as i've said in my first post, clean boot did nothing. Still, tried it again and got the same results. Could it be a problem with the 320GB Seagate Drive (C:\), since it's fairly old, 4 to 5 years or so? It has been working like a charm, unlike the newer 500GB Seagate one, which failed after the first five months.

USB extension is 2m (6½ feet) long, so that shouldnt be a problem.

The keyboard is currently plugged directly into a usb port at the back of the computer.

And as i've said in my first post, clean boot did nothing. Still, tried it again and got the same results.



Could it be a problem with the 320GB Seagate Drive (C:\), since it's fairly old, 4 to 5 years or so?

It has been working like a charm, unlike the newer 500GB Seagate one, which failed after the first five months.

Probably nothing to do with your 320gb Seagate C:\ , because PCPitstop Full Tests shows that it is clipping along at 56mb/s which is very good.
If you want to at this time, you could run CHKDSK /r against your C:\ (Maybe do this as maintenance every month or two)
Some would suggest to also run Defrag (while running in SAFE Mode) but I am not convinced there would be much benefit. (Maybe run Defrag once every 6 months or once per year)

I'm wondering about WMI (Windows Management Instrumentation)
You are not running a server operating system, but if you are hosting LAN parties, there may be some similarities.
It might be possible that one or some of your gaming software is setting filters.

Read the rest of the MS KB from my prior post: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/974524

And have a look here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555253

I realize neither article explicitly references to Windows 7.

I'm not yet sure how to complete the diagnosis.

As a preview, read: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinte…s/bb896653.aspx