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[terry1966]

Or it might be a memory isssue. I installed new ram from my new pc, so that isn't the problem.

first you say it might be a memory problem with your old machine then you say it can't be the ram.

the ram is the memory,

and could very well be the problem especially if it wasn't having problems before you started changing things and installed the new ram.

ram works at different speeds/voltages depending on it's specifications,

so even if the motherboards support the same type,ddr2 say, and the ram physically fits into both motherboards there's no guarantee it will be compatible with both motherboards.(you might need a bios update for example to make it compatible)

these are both 4gb(2x2gb) sets of corsair ddr2 ram but that doesn't mean that both sets will work in the same motherboard without any problems.
http://www.overclock.......8-CS&tool=5
http://www.overclock.......&subcat=813

you should always find out what ram(type/speed/voltages) is compatible with the motherboard before buying/installing it.
best place for this is usually the motherboards site for a compatibility list.

yeah its definitely a virus in fact malewarebytes already picked up 5 objects. lol It was a pain cause i had to log into another users account in order to even use that computer to fix it.

if you have any other pc's on the network don't forget to run scans on them all, check they are clean too, then i'd recommend starting a topic in the correct malware section and posting a dds scan just to make sure.

Edited by terry1966, 26 April 2011 - 04:31 AM.

[jeff matthews]

yeah ill probably make another topic for that other computer. Well anyways i finally got my ceramic paste on the CPU. I did just as the instruction told me to only my dot was slightly bigger then a BB. In any case, i booted it up and so far the temps have definitely been drastically reduced. Before what would happen is my temps would start off low and then graudually get higher and higher at a pretty steady speed until it hit around 95-100C. It wouldn't lower at all either. I am just leaving it on the Bios screen right now to see if the temps raise any higher. The moment i turned it on. It started with temps of 37C in idle. Then so far its jumped to 43C at the most. But it is staying with in that range. Its going up and down. So i think i may of fixed the problem. Hopefully. I am just going to watch it for a bit more to see if those temps raise. I had a little bit of trouble clamping down the heat sink, cause i accidentally had the pins in the wrong position. But i figured it out. In any case i didn't remove the heat sink at all since ive put the paste on. They said you don't want to do that other wise you risk getting air bubbles so i left it alone. Do you reccomend that i look at the CPU just incase some of the paste seeped over the edges of the CPU. Because that might damage the CPU. But i am not sure if i did that. I only placed a small dot, just a little bigger then a BB size. About the size of pea. So far its been on for bout 10 min and the temps are 44C. So in the last 5 min it went up one degree. I notice this is a HUGE change from it used to be. So now do i think i should take out the old drive and put my new drive now? Since i pretty much dissembled this computer, took out the PSU which wasn't the problem and got a new drive. I was thinking i use those parts in my other pc that is currently having issues with BSOD screens. Also the other computer's PSU really sucks. Its old.

[Doug]

You may eventually wish to change Hard Drives, but for the moment your current Hard Drive has Windows installed correctly for this machine. True? With your Temperatures hopefully under better control, I'd boot to windows and see how it functions. When you boot into windows, first thing you should do is activate Speedfan or similar, before doing anything else. If you have a heat spike, shut it down.

[jeff matthews]

ok i have absolutely nothing on the drive because it was formatted and no drivers either. remember. So you want me to dl "speed fan" can you provide a link. Alright ill boot into windows and see how it acts.

[jeff matthews]

Ok im booted into my computer finnaly. For starters i will say that windows booted up extremly quick. Probably because there isnt anything on here lol. No slow downs either like i had prio to formatting this drive. I guess thats probably what i needed really bad.

[Doug]

SpeedFan is easily found via search engine.

[jeff matthews]

Ok here is the low down on the temps. Temp - 2C Temp1 - 38C Temp2 - 38C Temp 3 - 25C HD0 - 29C Core 0 - 43C Core 1 - 41C Core 2 - 43C Core 3 - 47C Every now and then some of the Core temps raise from 43-50 but its only in a split second when i open the application. Is that normal? Also is there anything else you would like me to do with this application?

[jeff matthews]

Ok here is the low down on the temps. Temp - 2C Temp1 - 38C Temp2 - 38C Temp 3 - 25C HD0 - 29C Core 0 - 43C Core 1 - 41C Core 2 - 43C Core 3 - 47C Every now and then some of the Core temps raise from 43-50 but its only in a split second when i open the application. Is that normal? Also is there anything else you would like me to do with this application? In any case there staying at around 43-47 range. There not raising any where to 50 or higher.

Edited by jeff matthews, 26 April 2011 - 08:50 PM.

[jeff matthews]

Core 3 is all the way down to 38 now.

[terry1966]

you don't really need speed fan you could just use the temp monitoring app you were using before, coretemp i think you said it was. no don't take the heatsink off to check anything. temps look fine now, so with any luck you won't have any more problems for a long time with that machine. you don't need to worry about the temps unless they start going over at least 70c, fluctuations of a few degrees while monitoring them is normal and nothing to worry about, mine jump at least 5 degrees at times. you will notice a big jump of say 20 degrees tho between 100% load of cpu and idle temperatures, like when you play games, but again this is normal and nothing to worry about unless like i said they go way over 70c.

Edited by terry1966, 26 April 2011 - 09:01 PM.

[jeff matthews]

you don't really need speed fan you could just use the temp monitoring app you were using before, coretemp i think you said it was.
no don't take the heatsink of to check anything.
temps look fine now, so with any luck you won't have any more problems for a long time with that machine.

Wonderful thats great news. Its bout darn time. So i guess its safe now to put my new drive in?

[jeff matthews]

I have alot of other issues with BSOD crashes on my other pc. I guess i make another topic for that or just continue this thread for that other machine. But its so bad, that i can't install windows properly, i can't boot into safe mode either. Since i have two drives now that are completely formatted i was thinking bout using this drive in the other computer to see if that resolves the issue, in any case thats what i plan on doing. Cause the drive in that pc is extremly old. Then i will place the new drive the 1tb in this computer.

[terry1966]

you can't just put 1 drive with an operating system into another pc and expect it to boot up into the os, it just doesn't work like that, there are to many differences with drivers and things for you not to have problems. the only way it will work is to put a drive into the old machine then format and install the operating system in that machine. no harm in reseating the cpu in the old machine now you have some thermal paste and see if it fixes it's problems.

Edited by terry1966, 26 April 2011 - 09:07 PM.

[jeff matthews]

you can't just put 1 drive with an operating system into another pc and expect it to boot up into the os,
it just doesn't work like that, there are to many differences with drivers and things for you not to have problems.
the only way it will work is to put a drive into the old machine then format and install the operating system in that machine.



no harm in reseating the cpu in the old machine now you have some thermal paste and see if it fixes it's problems.

I know that lol. What i mean is that the drive is clean so i don't have to back up any data off of the drive since ive already done. Just do a simple format and clean install. But before i do that i was going to put my other PSU in the computer as well. I guess i can also apply some paste to the old machine. Though i doubt that is the problem. The temps seem fine, the computer does not shut down. It just has BSOD crashes. Which can be a number of things, drivers corrupted. Registry files corrupted. windows install corrupted or ram. Though i did run a ram test on the pc last night on some of the ram cards and none of them pointed out any problems or errors at all. So i am assuming its just a very lethal virus, trojan of some sort that is corrupting the windows main registery. It happen about a day ago when my sister went on a website and she explained to me it just BSOD crashed right there.

Ever since then i have not been able to boot into windows with it out happening or even safe mode for that matter. It does not happen on the bios screen though at all.

Edited by jeff matthews, 26 April 2011 - 09:16 PM.

[Doug]

Take is easy, jeff. No need to do too many things at once. If you decide to fit a new Hard Drive into this machine and install Windows... go right ahead. Just don't do anything with the existing Drive until you have a successful installation on the New Hard Drive.