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[Doug]

Well Darn!

The fact of the matter is that any third-party hardware monitoring utility is dependent upon accessing sensors that are already physically present in the equipment.

Some manufacturers install several sensors and devices to accept information from specific components such as CPU, GPU, Hard Drive, and motherboard. Others don't.

There is a small possibility that a different third-party sensor utility may "find" sensor information that SpeedFan is not detecting.

Here are some options as suggested by my colleague, Digerati.
Give them a try.

HW Monitors. Courtesy of Digerati

Your motherboard utilities disk should have a monitoring program (or check for a more recent version on your motherboard or PC maker's website). If none, I recommend CoreTemp for newer Intel and AMD64 CPUs, or [url="http://<a%20href="http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/"%20target="_blank">http://www.techpower...mp/</a>"]RealTemp[/url] for Intels. SpeedFan is a great and popular alternative, or you can try Motherboard Monitor. Unfortunately, I have found that these programs often have problems properly identifying and labeling the sensor they are reading. The temperatures shown are as accurate as the inexpensive, low-tech sensors will allow, but it may say System Fan instead of CPU Fan. Fortunately, the programs do allow you to edit the labels, so I use Everest to verify the temperatures (as it is able to put sensor to label correctly), then edit the label in the monitoring program. In Everest, look under Computer > Sensor, then wait a couple seconds for the readings to appear. Unfortunately, Everest does not minimize to the system tray to show real-time temperatures, otherwise, you could use Everest instead of the others.

[Lee]

From a fresh install, all temps. with an avaiable sensor should already be enabled. If not, click on Configure Tab and tick everything. To create a Log, Configure Tab / Log Tab / tick "enable". Cheers, Lee

Edited by Lee, 23 January 2011 - 01:42 PM.

[techcurve]

Both sticks in and running. No blue wall yet. Lee: I've pressed the configure tab and all it has offered me is HDO, no other options. However I have enabled the log. Thanks fo rthe pointer. Doug, Digerati: Thankyou. I will download real temp and motherboard monitor. I'll run them and see what I get. Then I'll download Everest and I'll try to do what your suggesting, Digerati. I'll post results. techcurve

[Doug]

Please also run PCPitstop OverDrive Full Tests and post a link to your results.

[techcurve]

Here is link to PCpitstop review: http://www.pcpitstop...;report=Summary

Coretemp and realtemp didn't recognise my CPU, (or something like that). I've downloaded Motherboard monitor and Everest, and am in the process of figuring out how to operate them. If you have any short cuts or pointers on how to us them, I'd appreciate it as they do appear to be straight forward to me,,,,,,,,,,,yet! I will endeavour!

techcurve

[Doug]

Go ahead an give Everest a test-drive.
After you install and run Everest...

Select from the left-hand column:

Computer
then select
Sensors

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For the time being, please skip (don't install MotherBoardMonitor)
It's fine if you have already installed it, but it is not likely to benefit you on this Dell machine.
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Let us know what readings become available via Everest.

[techcurve]

ok. Running everest. Gone into computer then sensor and all it is saying is WDC 40 C (104) Is this any help? techcurve

[Doug]

Looks like we just aren't going to get much information from that Dell machine. Dell is "miserly" when it comes to allowing owner/users to have access to stuff Dell doesn't think is important for owner/user to see. I've had similar experiences with the same and other Dell machines. As to the Temp for your Hard Drive. Yes that is OK. _____________________ If you encounter another Blue Screen Stop or Error warning, please write down the entire exact warning message, including the long strings of alpha-numeric numbering code.... and all the rest of the information.

[techcurve]

How frustrating of Dell, clearly its helpful information. Hmmmm. My computer is being stable at the moment, which is a surprise. I'll keep you posted, and thanks for staying with me on it, techcurve

[Doug]

Techcurve, Take all the time you need. One or more of our helpers will be available when you post back. Please be mindful of what applications and activities are occurring "just before" any Stop or Error warnings occur, if it does happen again. Knowing about the prior activity may help us in isolating the problem. ____________________ I presume you are connected to the internet via Speedtouch 330. Is this correct? Is it connected via USB? Tell us anything else about the internet connection that may come to mind. Changes, using it with other computers/other devices such as gaming? Take your time. We'll be around. Best Regards

[techcurve]

Ok. Yes I am running speedtouch 330 and yes via a USB. Yesterday I had the blue wall appear three times. However, it did run well for three, consecative days, being well worked, several windows open whilst surfing the net, running you tube, games. All the usual stuff we do. No problems. I was surprised by that. This is the info that was on the blue screen: A problem has been detected, and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer. If this is the first time, you've seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps. Check to be sure you have enough disk space. If a driver is identified in the stop message, disable the driver or check with the manufacturer for driver update. Try changing video adapters. Check with your hardware vendor for any BIOS updates. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select advanced set up options, and then select safe mode. Technical information: ***STOP: 0x0000008E (0x0000005, 0x805799c9, 0xA8741600, 0x00000000) The other two error numbers were the same, accept the third number in brackets, on both occasions. The number change was: 0xA9A97590 0xA8667FA8 I look forward to a reply, as I am baffled! (Ithink facebook and picnic were being run at the time) techcurve

[Ztruker]

This is a long thread and I confess I have not looked at it all recently, but doing some searching on the 0x0000008E(0xC0000005 stop coee, I found this:

My Fix for the STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005... BSOD / REBOOT

I'm not saying this is the case, but just one possibility.

[techcurve]

Thanks Ztruker. Interesting. I've had another error: Stop: 0x0000000A (0x000000F4,)x0000001C, 0x00000000, 0x804FCC29) techcurve

[Ztruker]

I just reread this thread and it seems like you keep putting both sticks back in after running for awhile with no errors and then a while later you get an error. That leads to circular testing, repeating the same steps over and over and never getting to a solution. Though the computer runs slower, remove one stick and run with it that way for a week or so if necessary and see if you get a BSOD. If not replace the one removed or as Doug suggested, replace both of them with a matched pair or even move up to a pair of 512MB sticks as Lee suggested. Or ... forget testing and just replace the two 256Mb sticks with two 512MB sticks and see what happens. You lose nothing and gain performance no matter what else happens. If it resolves the problem that's great. If not you have a faster machine to continue working on the problem with

[techcurve]

Ztruker; Thanks for reading through the thread, I appreciate the support. I've taken one of my sticks out again, as you've suggested, and i'll run it for a week or so, to see how it goes. Then , if all is well, I'll try the other stick, on it's own, for a week or so. The sticks I'm using are 512 each. I like the upgrading idea, however, I'm feeling a reluctant about that at this point, as I do not know what or where the problem is, and I'm concerned that, maybe, it's something more serious and expensive, moreover, is the issue fixable? techcurve