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[Jkc73]

If it were me, I would create a boot partition on the New Hard Drive (you already did create 80gb <-- good)
I would leave the rest of the New Hard Drive empty.

The new hdd is a 1TB external hdd(Western Digital),

I have already copied the entire contents bit for bit from the 1TB internal hdd(Samsung) to the new drive.
Reason for copy: Samsung hdd contains the backup/restore images and old win xp install with data I have been sorting through for some time.
The (ext) hdd (Western Digital) is listed as Disk 3 in the attached .jpg file.

My main reason for copying this to the external hdd is to continue to salvage data from the previously installed windows, which I started a topic about here.

The end outcome is to have the 1TB Samsung hdd partitioned into 3, probably 80/320/600 or close to. As Doug states I have partitioned an 80GB, yes...
The 1TB Samsung hdd is partitioned 850GB(Primary) contains win xp and important data, plus the backup/restore images. The 2nd partition is 80GB Logical.
These details can be seen on the attached .jpg file.

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Here's what I intend to do...

With the backup images and data copied to the external 1TB hdd(Western Digital), I believe it should be safe to format the internal 1TB drive(Samsung).
I can then restore the Macrium Image to the 80gb partition.

As long as I am able to boot from the 1TB internal hdd(Samsung), with the restored Macrium Image.
And the 1TB external hdd(Western Digital) holds all data with no corruption, I should have a PCPitstop Test to post in a day or so.

If this is a little easier to comprehend, and my logic doesn't seem right, please advise.

[Doug]

Since you are already planning to format the internal HD, whose "second" logical drive is 80gb and is intended for use as the boot disk... Why not simply break all the partitions and start from scratch, creating an 80gb partition primary for your boot disk partition as the "first" partition on that HD?

[Jkc73]

Why not simply break all the partitions and start from scratch, creating an 80gb partition primary for your boot disk partition as the "first" partition on that HD?

Yes, that was my plan...without letting on.

I also planned on setting all the partitions on that samsung drive using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition 5.2

About 80/320/what ever is left..

With regards to a pagefile, I have the 20GB ide (Seagate)hdd, it is pretty old.

What do you recommend?

[Doug]

Your older 20gb HD has the advantage of being communicated over a separate/non-conflicting ATA ide channel. Thus "paging requests" do not have to wait for time between other traffic on your SATA channel.. The disadvantage is that it is ATA -- tremendously slower at about a factor of at least X2. (ATA IDE = 25-32 mp/s vs. 50-65 mp/s SATA) In actual practice you may not notice much difference. If it were me, I'd carve out a 20 gb partition on the SATA drive for paging. ____________ repetitive note: Since you are "creating" logical drives, you can do so via Windows Admin Tools - Storage - Disk Management The third-party tool you are referring to would be useful if you were "changing" the size of an existing partition. But have it your way. Either procedure will work.

[terry1966]

not 100% sure on exactly how your restore image process works.. or why doug would need/create a 20gb partition just for page file.. anyway from what i understand you have a working windows os on your old 20gb seagate ide drive and all your iso images and data have been backed up to your external 1tb wd hard drive, so now i would boot into the working windows os on the seagate drive, mount your 1tb samsung drive, completely wipe it(well not exactly you'd need to zero it for this) by creating and formatting all the primary partitions you want on it, 80,320,600(no logical partitions). reboot pc and go into bios and change the boot order of your hard drives, so the first in the list and the one it boots from is the samsung instead of the seagate. i assume you have a cd that you need to boot to start the image restore and when in the program it will see your external hard drive to access the image you want to restore, so boot to the cd and do the restore of your image to the new 80gb partition on the samsung(which is now the first primary partition and not the 2nd that you seem to have created already on it). when you boot your pc it will boot the newly restored image on the samsung 80gb partition, and when your in the os now you can add mount points to the new 320gb and 600gb partitions if it didn't automatically add them(not a windows user so not sure how it works regarding auto mount,etc) just leave the 20gb seagate drive as is, because the samsung is first boot drive in bios it will always boot to it, unless the drive fails, in which case you will have the seagate as a backup os to boot too in emergencies. that's how i would do it anyway,

Edited by terry1966, 27 January 2011 - 06:10 PM.

[Doug]

If Jkc73 wants a partition for paging file, he can certainly make it 4gb or 6gb or whatever he wishes. I just arbitrarily put it as 20gb to make sure there was plenty of room for paging.

[terry1966]

must of missed where he said he wanted a dedicated partition for page file, is that something thats now recommended for windows users?? i know us linux users usually have our swap partitions.

[Doug]

must of missed where he said he wanted a dedicated partition for page file,
is that something thats now recommended for windows users??
i know us linux users usually have our swap partitions.

I don't know how widely recommended it is, but it is my general practice.

[terry1966]

i think it's a good idea personally, speed wise, if setup correctly as the first partition on the fastest part of the drive/platter, 4Gb should be plenty, but must admit i never recommend it for windows users. don't you need to make some edits to the registry before it is seen/used just for page file?

[Doug]

The settings to point to a specific partition for paging file can be made in System Properties - Advanced - Performance - Advanced. It is also required to keep a minimum of 2 mb paging file on C:\ ...or else the rest of the paging file allocation doesn't work.

[terry1966]

[Jkc73]

all this fuss over windows and it's paging file allocation.
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Successful restoration.

All drives defragged.
All things appear normal with 1 exception.

Windows not updating, could this be due to my other install ?
~I have a registered OEM copy, maybe having updated already this month, then restoring with a few different hardware settings may be the problem.
~Yes! I did register again when I installed to the 20GB hdd.(Same key)

I tried restarting a few times.

The update,
KB24196332
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS11-002 - Critical

PCPitstop test in next post.....(I forgot,.... it's all the excitement)

Edited by Jkc73, 28 January 2011 - 02:15 AM.

[terry1966]

no fuss.. and i learned something new. glad you've got everything partitioned and working how you want.

Edited by terry1966, 28 January 2011 - 05:30 AM.

[Doug]

Jkc73,

I'm not understanding the update problem.

You identify KB24196332

Is that just a typo on your part?

I believe that the critical update to which you refer, can be downloaded and installed, from the following MS location:

http://www.microsoft...;displaylang=en

Is that what you were needing?

[Jkc73]

Is that just a typo on your part?

You are correct, in fact it is KB2419632
I restarted windows several times without success, this update kept appearing to install.

Things I have done since,

• Run ccleaner to remove temp files, etc.
• Disabled a FF addon called Yslow, which I remember trialing just before I had the hdd failure.
• Run a chkdsk /f on my hdd

Now it no longer appears.
I don't see how any of the things I did could have effected the message I was receiving.

Oh well, if it is working then I am happy.

I will run a few more tests and if necessary post the results.

Thanks for all your assistance.