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What is with the constant every day Trojan downloader attack?


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#1 compudodo

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    i love dogs/cats and horses, can't afford to own one. can't afford the vet bills. so I volunteer at a local animal shelter, get my sloppy wet kisses quota there.

    i like being creative, doing creative things, making stuff, i like painting, drawing, making jewelry, even the findings, i like collecting odd-duck friends with great minds, you do know don't you that you are known by the company your mind keeps dontcha? i love birds, would never own one, not ever, would never do that but what wondrous creatures, they run the gamut from delicate gossamer of wing to mighty, brazenly masterful.
    i love khan academy , string theory ; epigenetics, my brain cells are dying as we speak, but i am fighting the good fight.

Posted 08 February 2009 - 10:24 PM

Ok....... I did everything suggested, downloaded Zone Alarm for firewall protection, even though it is driving me crazy...freezes up my computer constantly, I can't shut down the machine normally, the programs never respond anymore.... So what? NOTHING out there stops these Trojan attacks???????? Granted my AVG kicked in and healed it, but every single day now I get a Trojan attack and it is just scary. So do I now outlay what? $50 a year for Norton or some other Security program???? Is this the only answer?
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#2 Abydos

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 03:01 AM

Hi Candice :wavey:

I have also answered your other topic.

But Candice. If you have Malware problems again, you should be in the
malware forum, and not here.... :unsure:

As for keep getting the trojan alert, indicates you are doing something
wrong, regarding your surf and download habits. So when you are finished
in the malware forum, you are more than welcome to post back here. I am
not allowed to advice on removal of malware, its strictly for the malware
forum.

But heres some reading, that you might benefit from;
http://forums.whatth...ing_t98700.html

Now, I don't ask you to do the things here. But do read the section just below "What can we do about it?"
Then we can take it from there, when you get a clean bill from the malware forum.

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    i love dogs/cats and horses, can't afford to own one. can't afford the vet bills. so I volunteer at a local animal shelter, get my sloppy wet kisses quota there.

    i like being creative, doing creative things, making stuff, i like painting, drawing, making jewelry, even the findings, i like collecting odd-duck friends with great minds, you do know don't you that you are known by the company your mind keeps dontcha? i love birds, would never own one, not ever, would never do that but what wondrous creatures, they run the gamut from delicate gossamer of wing to mighty, brazenly masterful.
    i love khan academy , string theory ; epigenetics, my brain cells are dying as we speak, but i am fighting the good fight.

Posted 09 February 2009 - 10:12 PM

LOL.....I don't go to any porn sites!!! My goodness!!!! I do keep up to date on my applications now, I don't know if I'm downloading every thing I am supposed to for Windows, but my machine always seems to be updating something....and I thought the Zone Alarm was going to stop this...it is a good program, it was recommended on Tallin's maintenance tips. He said it was much better than the Windows Firewall. This is happening on MSN, Verizon...where I access my emails and even using Google I got one...someone must be targeting me....I have never had this many trojans in the 8 years I have been using computers....I have gotten virus attacks maybe 4 times in 8 years....these past two months it has been one a day sometimes!!!!!!!
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#4 Abydos

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 07:23 AM

Hi Candice

LOL.....I don't go to any porn sites!!! My goodness!!!!


Didn't mean to imply that you were. The linked information is meant for everybody, and
not you specifically. We just need to have that info there, as some do visit such sites.

Candice, if you have a Trojan on your computer, its a malware question, and for the
malware fighters to address. I am not allowed in assisting or give instructions
regarding this.

Happy day (Despite the troubles) :wavey:

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  • Interests:old fart on a rampage now w/big attitudes, big passions are poetry, parades, pansies, painting, and PIZZA, but only NY style thin crust, not necessarily in that order (and anyway i'm diabetic now and not eating much pizza, sheesh, life without carbs REALLY SUCKS). I know w/deteriorating eyesight and poor reflexes, I can't get back on a motorcycle for the rest of my life, gosh darn it,vroom vroom! (If heaven doesn't have motorcycles I don't wanna go there)

    i love dogs/cats and horses, can't afford to own one. can't afford the vet bills. so I volunteer at a local animal shelter, get my sloppy wet kisses quota there.

    i like being creative, doing creative things, making stuff, i like painting, drawing, making jewelry, even the findings, i like collecting odd-duck friends with great minds, you do know don't you that you are known by the company your mind keeps dontcha? i love birds, would never own one, not ever, would never do that but what wondrous creatures, they run the gamut from delicate gossamer of wing to mighty, brazenly masterful.
    i love khan academy , string theory ; epigenetics, my brain cells are dying as we speak, but i am fighting the good fight.

Posted 10 February 2009 - 03:14 PM

Well, I was just trying to say..... I downloaded the Zone Alarm..... I thought it was supposed to be much better than the Windows Firewall..... apparently not, because I got another Trojan attack....but my AVG took care of it, so I don't have to go to malware.....I just have to figure out why the Zone alarm is not working well with my computer.....it constantly freezes....I can't even shut down properly.....and if the Zone Alarm isn't going to protect me, then does any free software keep the Trojans at bay???? Or do I have to spend $50 a year for protection that will really work and just keep them the heck out of my system????? I guess I will un-install the Zone Alarm since it is just not operating properly with my computer and try another on the list of recommended Firewalls that Tallin mentioned...... I guess it did afford some protection, because two weeks ago I got hit twice in a matter of seconds....they seemed like the same Trojan virus, but AVG could only heal one of them....... that's why I was over in malware again with Tallin to have him help me get the other one out...... I'll just go and fiddle with different firewall programs, see if I can find one that doesn't freeze me up every two minutes ( I don't even have to be on line for the computer to just stop working)....and I suppose if worse comes to worse, I will try to find affordable firewall protection that will not permit Trojans in whatsoever..... I am on my computer here at work, and my boss pays for Norton, and he has never gotten a Trojan attack..... so that may be my only option. I'll try the other free firewalls first though.....Thanks for looking in again Abydos, you are most kind to keep tabs on my progress and problems. :) have a great week!!!
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 07:44 PM

Hi Candice :wavey:

Its not normal that Zone-Alarm should freeze a PC up.

Have you remembered to disable windows firewall after you installed
Zone-Alarm? Its important that you only run one firewall, otherwise
they will get in conflict.

To disable windows firewall, go here:

Start or "My Computer"
Control-panel, then security center

In there you will be able to disable windows firewall. Do remember to
enable it again, if you uninstall Zone-Alarm!

In my opinion, there is no need to go buy security. Free software security
can do it just as good, as long as one is surfing disciplined. If you would
feel better about having a paid for program (and thus 100% support on it)
Then it is your choice and money.

I still feel you should head over to the malware forum. Just to be certain that
your PC is clean. Otherwise, it may never end. The sole purpose of a trojan
(like in the greek history) is to sneak more malware onboard your computer.
So one trojan not found, will mean a lot more trouble if not removed. Maybe
to a point, where the only solution left, is to re-format the PC, if left undisturbed.

That said. I hope you're doing ok or better! :)

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 08:27 PM

Candice,

Will you walk into my parlour?" said the Spider to the Fly,
'Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy;
The way into my parlour is up a winding stair,
And I've a many curious things to shew when you are there."
Oh no, no," said the little Fly, "to ask me is in vain,
For who goes up your winding stair can ne'er come down again."

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    i love dogs/cats and horses, can't afford to own one. can't afford the vet bills. so I volunteer at a local animal shelter, get my sloppy wet kisses quota there.

    i like being creative, doing creative things, making stuff, i like painting, drawing, making jewelry, even the findings, i like collecting odd-duck friends with great minds, you do know don't you that you are known by the company your mind keeps dontcha? i love birds, would never own one, not ever, would never do that but what wondrous creatures, they run the gamut from delicate gossamer of wing to mighty, brazenly masterful.
    i love khan academy , string theory ; epigenetics, my brain cells are dying as we speak, but i am fighting the good fight.

Posted 10 February 2009 - 09:15 PM

grunt groan grimace....... i'm so tired....i'm whining ...i know.... i have to get to bed, had a day from hell, with only 3 hours sleep last night..... tomorrow I am trying a meetup.com group hoping to get some focus, friendships and maybe some kind of life going here.... i'll check back in tomorrow...i promise, if i don't get in too late from the meetup. hopefully i'll sleep tonite..... wish i had some money for booze, that'd knock me out good LOL......I really am overwhelmed about what I don't know about computers, some sweet person tried to tell me stuff about formats and drivers...and it's all greek to me, i just don't understand the basic functions and workings.... 60 year old women should not be in this position, they should be in a better place in life where they can take the tower to a computer store and pay people to do everything....and get soaked just like the plumber does, just like the car mechanic does, just like the landscaper would to mow my lawn if I could afford a landscaper to mow my lawn LOL...... say good night Candice....good night Candice!!!! See you guys tomorrow....my eyelids are propped up with toothpicks right now!!!! abydos, the window firewall says it is shut off now, it didn't at first...it seemed to take a day to kick in....just like the java update stuff I did took three tries, five shutdowns before it finally kicked in and updated..... it even says now that Zone Alarm is my firewall on the security page. I really think the zone alarm is the problem, because it is fine when the zonealarm little red/green icon is blinking...but then for some reason it decides to become a black Z in a white box..... and if you try to change a web page, or play a game, or go to another email account...it freezes if the black Z is there and not the blinking lights....at least that is what it seems like.... my computer never froze up ever before this
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 09:53 PM

@ Compudodo, I answered you here @ Post #33

Then I lost connection to the internet for an hour.... :blush:

Good post TomK.....thanks from me also

kind regards,

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 08:59 PM

Hey guys & gal:...Let me jump in here with an excellent solution AFTER compudodo gets an all clear from the HJT forum or is cleared to be here...
May I wholeheartedly reccommend AVAST!...Not only does it STOP trojans at the door , but it won't let the website setup !! As soon as you get on an infected website an alert comes up..The company that owns it sends out updates almost daily automatically... AND you can scan for viruses etc...It is a TOP Drawer program....I've had it for several months now & got NO infections, NONE !!!

Here's the best part....It's FREE !!....

Later,... :popcorn:

Edited by Ron.M, 18 February 2009 - 09:03 PM.

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    i love dogs/cats and horses, can't afford to own one. can't afford the vet bills. so I volunteer at a local animal shelter, get my sloppy wet kisses quota there.

    i like being creative, doing creative things, making stuff, i like painting, drawing, making jewelry, even the findings, i like collecting odd-duck friends with great minds, you do know don't you that you are known by the company your mind keeps dontcha? i love birds, would never own one, not ever, would never do that but what wondrous creatures, they run the gamut from delicate gossamer of wing to mighty, brazenly masterful.
    i love khan academy , string theory ; epigenetics, my brain cells are dying as we speak, but i am fighting the good fight.

Posted 19 February 2009 - 02:32 PM

well hello there Ron......yes, I did that, three days ago. I had to take a break. I did. I just get weary weary weary with all the problems and things I don't understand. I had to take a break..... I literally was just afraid to turn the machine on...so I stayed off, especially since when I did come back on line my AVG had a warning the email scanning was not operational. I stared at that for two minutes, letting that sink in..... then decided I couldn't safely check any of my email that I had ignored for over a week..... I could NOT for the life of me find any way to fix the AVG email thing.... there seemed to be no way to make it operational again....so I took a deep breath, uninstalled it, went to the great page Tallin had posted all the things to download for a safe computer, I chose AVAST and downloaded that and so far, this is the third day, there have been no problems. (crosses fingers, knocks on wood)..... Ok, I know I have to go visit Tom again and have him check out my current logs. I will do that now..... but the machine is still freezing all the time and I don't like it, but I guess I have to live with it....it is just annoying when it does in the middle of an email or when I want to shut down, I can't shut down normally...but hey...better than getting Trojans every five minutes And to all the nice people that want me to find a good, reputable tech somewhere close to where I live, I just have no money for that. I really don't....I was unemployed all of last year, I have had a job for two months now and am so deeply in the hole, you can't believe. I only work part time, not full time and I just am struggling every single day to survive, so there really is no way to find a spare dime. That is why I am so very thankful for the wonderful people here.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:55 PM

compudodo :wavey: ....You'll really get to love AVAST!!...You can & should scan for viruses on a regular basis with AVAST!.....Learn how to use it !!! ...The only drawback I see with it , is it takes a LONG time to complete the scan...BUT , it IS thorough!!

I can't help you out with your other problems as I am nowhere near qualified...I'LL leave that up to these GREAT tech's here... :D ......
Good luck..... :popcorn:

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    i love dogs/cats and horses, can't afford to own one. can't afford the vet bills. so I volunteer at a local animal shelter, get my sloppy wet kisses quota there.

    i like being creative, doing creative things, making stuff, i like painting, drawing, making jewelry, even the findings, i like collecting odd-duck friends with great minds, you do know don't you that you are known by the company your mind keeps dontcha? i love birds, would never own one, not ever, would never do that but what wondrous creatures, they run the gamut from delicate gossamer of wing to mighty, brazenly masterful.
    i love khan academy , string theory ; epigenetics, my brain cells are dying as we speak, but i am fighting the good fight.

Posted 20 February 2009 - 12:19 AM

Well, we'll see if I can manage this one...for some reason, AVG would just go bonkers on me, and I'd have no email scanning protection...that was how I got the first trojan and it just snowballed from there...... I hope Avast is easy to use, I already scanned with it, all my scans take over half an hour, so I'm used to the slowness factor. Thanks for scooting in here and offering some help, I truly appreciate it. Everyone here is so nice and no one makes fun of how stupid I am...so I really enjoy coming here. Thanks again :)
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Posted 21 February 2009 - 03:42 PM

compudodo: Some friendly advice...From what I can see , you've NOT been cleared from the HJT forum yet....It's not a good idea to be involved in other forums while they're giving you great help in the HJT forum...There is the possibility of getting accidentally unco-ordinated advice which could screw up the process of resolving your problem...BTW: I'm NOT saying that's happening in this thread...

Also: From my reading all 3 of your threads in the HJT forum , it appears that you are scanning for viruses etc , while online....I don't think that's a good idea...I would suggest that you do any virus scans , (Avast , SpyBot , MBAM , AVG , etc) OFFLINE & with ALL other applications CLOSED....Somewhere someone advised me to do it thataway...Being online during the scan can cause problems with the scanning process , so I'm told...That could be why you're having a problem with AVG.. Ask Tomk...I'm sure someone here would back me up on this...Maybe....

Tomk is a superb tech...Follow his instructions in order and exactly & you WILL come out OK...

Best of Luck... :) ...... :popcorn:

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 03:53 PM

(Avast , SpyBot , MBAM , AVG , etc) OFFLINE & with ALL other applications CLOSED....Somewhere someone advised me to do it thataway...Being online during the scan can cause problems with the scanning process

RonM,

From your quote above
  • Avast, if configured correctly updates and scans automatically in my experience
  • Certain scans and most particularly online scans, you need to be online for them to work
  • I do all my Antispyware scanning online immediatly after updating whatever program I manually choose to scan with on any particular day. None are in my startup, all manually run on demand.
See what others think, I do not run AVG, only Avast Antivirus and ZoneAlarm Firewall along with my Ghost image software are in my startup folder.

kind regards,

Edit: to add the word Antivirus

Edited by tallin, 22 February 2009 - 07:39 PM.

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