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#16 bughater

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 01:17 PM

Your advice is strongly considered. i gave that some thought some time ago. Until my recent discovery. I'll see if this change in configuration is a absolute positive change. In the meantime, how do I change my OS back to default without a complete re-install. I had TuneUp 2009 since October 2008.

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 01:38 PM

I would not know - I don't know what changes have been made. But certainly uninstalling should remove it from running, but whether it un-does any changes, that I don't know.
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 07:21 AM

I suppose my IE7 worked itself out. Before I upgraded to Vista Home Premium a couple of weeks ago it was working fine. The techs here at WhattheTech cleared my computer a good bill of health. So the IE7 issue was mind blogging. And since the upgrade IE7 is working even greater (???). I did remove all my security software except McAfee. Of note, I did initially remove McAfee for AVG home edition free. There was no difference inregards with speed and performance (so much for all the McAfee naysayers). I have since removed McAfee again for a trial version of Trend Micro Security Suite. My Dell desktop is working excellent. I currently have McAfee on my Gateway P-7805u laptop 64bit and my IE7 is working at blazing speeds.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 08:50 AM

(For those that received notice of an earlier reply, I moved sssternesss' post into the new thread titled: IE7 Takes too long)

I did initially remove McAfee for AVG home edition free

Did you mean to say "McAfee and AVG"?

so much for all the McAfee naysayers

With over 10 (pushing 20!) years of history of bogging down systems with bloated code and unwanted extras foisted on users, McAfee (and Symantec/Norton, and others) earned that level of contempt. Yet they succeeded, thrived because (1) they were, and still are good at keeping systems secure, and (2) one or the other likely came pre-bundled with every new computer, with a "Free" trial version, often pre-installed and running. They "played on the fact", either by marketing genius, or by happenstance, that many users (perhaps wisely, or through fear of breaking it) will not mess with things once working, and will simply shell out the cash when the trial period expires. The problem is, they did consume more resources and were well known to be at the root of too many issues and conflicts - compared to "roll your own" suites - especially if you wanted to uninstall them :angry: . Both companies felt the vacuum left by huge numbers of users as fresh alternatives like AVG Free came on line. Sadly, AVG, like Norton and McAfee before them, has morphed into a huge, all-in-one suite too - a trend I don't like for many reasons besides unwanted bloat - but that's not for this discussion. Still, the latest versions Norton/Symantec and McAfee products are much more efficient than those of just a couple years ago, and so the old naysayer arguments for this topic do not stand on as solid ground as they (me too!) used to, and both are good products - that is, if you like having all your security eggs in a one, sole-brand suite.

I am glad your IE7 issue "worked itself out", though it would be nice if we knew what happened. I use IE exclusively (never believing the Firefox naysayers! ;)). If you like IE7, then you will really like IE8.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:26 AM

My apologies for not knowing the solution to my previous problem. I still have a waiting period "waiting for http", but a few seconds and not minutes as before. I don't know what happened. Maybe i had too many security softwares on my computer running at once all checking the security of the webpages i would try to open. Right now on my gateway i have only McAfee running, not even windows defender. On my Dell desktop i have a trial version of Trend Micro running. No doubt when it ends i'll be putting McAfee or AVG back on. Trend Micro trial came with my Linksys wireless setup. I will never use Norton. A relative and two co-workers of mine had to have their computers removed and cleaned professionally because Norton let a virus in their computers. thats too close to home for me. haven't been let down by McAfee yet (knock on wood). Again, my apologies, but the problem worked itself out. My only explanation is that perhaps I had too much security running at the same time. And the fact I learned later McAfee doesn't get along too well or at all with other brand securities. A little temperamental i'd say.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 11:07 AM

My apologies for not knowing the solution to my previous problem.

Yeah! Shame on you for not knowing everything! ;)

You need to make sure you know which product you have. All the major makers sell several products under the same brand name. You need to make sure you have a full suite of security tools to ensure full coverage, and not just an AV. If your McAfee includes real-time scanning for spyware (and I believe it does), then you don't need Windows Defender. You will still need a firewall (if not part of the suite), and must keep the computer updated and patched. But even the best defense cannot protect the computer from a user who participates in risky behavior such as illegal porn, gambling, or filesharing copyrighted materials on P2P sites.
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Posted 13 February 2009 - 04:32 AM

You are absolutely correct. And my McAfee subscription is a full suite. It runs by its lonesome. When this Trend runs out if not before I'll be putting McAfee back on. Gave AVG home free edition a second thought. I'd have to redownload a firewall with AVG (not included). Likely not to reload AVG. With McAfee, I just leave it in the background and forget about it. Time to time it'll ask my permission or perhaps catch a trojan of sorts. Being a novice with computers i'd read all the forums and read peoples posts regarding all the security they'd have on their computers and likewise I followed foot. Only realized for me atleast it was overkill. Too many seasonings will ruin a meal.

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 08:36 AM

Well, if going to extremes, I think too many is better than not enough - at least with security programs. As for suites, well, you can see my opinion about suites in my Practicing Safe Computing post - see "Comment: Security Suites" near the bottom.

With McAfee, I just leave it in the background and forget about it.

As long as it stays running and updated, that should be fine.

Time to time it'll ask my permission or perhaps catch a trojan of sorts.

Catch a Trojan? That's good that it catches it, but the truth is, you should not be getting Trojans in the first place for it to catch! The user is the weakest link, you might want to scan through that whole post above to ensure you have all your bases covered.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 10:01 AM

I go on limewire sometime and a trojan might present itself. McAfee catches it and/or limewire itself. The user is definitely a weak link I agree. I can be a little reckless on the net at times. But I gotten better over the months. Now i'm not talking about trojans appearing everyday, week, or month, etc. Truthly I only seen them when I used limewire and not everytime i use it. And its been several months since I last been on limewire. Using Scanit will also present a trojan that McAfee will catch. My desktop and laptop appears to be security tight. I am really pleased right now.

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Posted 14 February 2009 - 10:08 AM

Oh yeah downloaded IE8 RC1. A few kinks at times that I ignore. I like some of the added features. Not sure yet about the inprivate filtering. Haven't quite gotten a grasp on how it really works. I enable it, leave IE and come back and its disabled. Haven't had any incompatible web pages yet. Its only been, I think 3-4 days, since I downloaded ie8. Pages boot on time, could be faster I guess, but nothing like before as I said.

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Posted 14 February 2009 - 10:33 AM

InPrivate filtering opens a new IE window that allows the user to surf anywhere, but no trace of that surfing will be left on the computer. Sometimes referred to as "porn mode", it is really for use on public computers where you don't want a badguy using the computer right after you, tracing where went, and what you typed into the computer.

I go on limewire sometime and a trojan might present itself.

Note limewire, P2P programs and other sites that cater to the illegal downloading of copyrighted materials, such as songs, videos, or published writings, are preferred choices and methods used by badguys to release and distribute new malware. That makes the practice of participating in such activities particularly dangerous because new threats are not yet addressed even in the most recent anti-malware signature and definition files.

But it goes beyond that because downloading copyrighted materials without the required compensation (royalties) is nothing short of stealing, and those that do it are thieves. But beyond that further still, their computers (not secured from these newest threats) are frequently the ones compromised by badguys and used as weapons against the rest of use to distribute spam, porn, malicious code, or to participate in a DDoS attack, all without the computers' owners knowledge. Not cool.

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Posted 15 February 2009 - 04:42 PM

Well you defined inprivate filtering very well. I like it already. GO! IE8. As far as limewire goes, well, i am guilty of downloads but very seldom. I know there are badguys lurking behind some download and its a roll of the dice to dodge'm.

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