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Hello

I have been imaging for years and depend upon it for those bad moments.

A friend feels it is either too hard or that there are better ways such as batch fie, roll back and format with reinstallation - not imaging.

Win 8.1 has the refresh option and the format option but my point is that if your system is running well isn't imaging one advisable way to go in the event of file recovery, disaster etc. I know Windows has a file recovery feature but imaging has this also along with the entire system recovery.

I have used a third party imaging program for years but Win 8.1 also has an imaging program.

I find it necessary to image my system and it is so easy.

Is it advisable to image in your professional opinion, or is there a better way to recover after disaster/virus etc.?

Thank you

an image is the fastest and best way to restore your pc after the worst happens and is much better than a format and re-install, for starters you won't need to go through all the hassle of downloading all the windows updates a clean install will require to get everything back up to date security wise, after that you then have to re-install all your programs again.

 

so no your friend is wrong and there is no better way to have a complete backup of your pc than an image, but i wouldn't rely only on an image i'd also have another backup strategy for just my important data that i didn't want to lose.

 

:popcorn:

Peter

I agree with Terry….. he is spot on!

Whereas I'm sorry to say your friend who says:

"A friend feels it is either too hard or that there are better ways such as batch fie, roll back and format with reinstallation - not imaging."

 

is just plain wrong…… an accurate image of a well set up system, running fast and smooth, fully up to date and with no junk files or malicious code,(viruses worms trojans etc) is an excellent idea that can solve many software/operating system problems in less time than it takes to walk the dog….An extra copy kept safe on removable media (offsite) is a wise safeguard)

 

As you also correctly say, Win 8 and 8.1 have the built in "System Refresh" that can also be useful in many situations as generally data files will be preserved.

Regards

paws

Yes sir. It is likely the most significant feature of the pc in this context.

My friend is so savvy with pcs; software, hardware etc.  I just have to prod him.

I hope he is reading this.

I've lost count of the number of people who have come into the shop with hard drive or file system problems and say how important their data is and they don't want to lose it yet never backed any of it up.

 

One of the handiest tools I have is the universal USB adapter that allows me to connect a IDE/SATA hard drive (laptop to desktop) to one of our shop computers so I can save their data before reloading the OS. If the drive is dead though then they are out of luck.

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I've lost count of the number of people who have come into the shop with hard drive or file system problems and say how important their data is and they don't want to lose it yet never backed any of it up.

One of the handiest tools I have is the universal USB adapter that allows me to connect a IDE/SATA hard drive (laptop to desktop) to one of our shop computers so I can save their data before reloading the OS. If the drive is dead though then they are out of luck.

I echo Rich's wise words. I use the same sort of equipment in my workshop … it has paid for itself many many times over!
Regards
paws

I suspect this is me that Peter is talking about, but I fear he misunderstood what I was trying to say, to begin with the advice above is without question the wisest way to cover yourself, and it is something I have yet to achieve, the last time I tried (several years back now), and was far more complex than now (from what I saw), this is pre 1TB drives, and external USB ones, even if it was just cost making them out of most people's reach.

 

How this started was because I warned him of the big Nvidia issue affecting many people of late (me included), as he had mentioned about updating this driver, I had suggested NOT to update, more so if he was stable, due to the masses of people affected by this, but he had done it before he saw my warning I think, and all I had said was that IF there was a problem after doing that, he should try and use the Roll Back Driver option in the device manager before he started recovering the entire system via his backup's.

 

My logic behind this is simply why make something harder than what it could be, I also included a comment about read\write and drive life being shortened each time this was done (I was mainly thinking of SSD's here, but is true of any disk), although I also conceded that most would never be aware of just how much this would affect them, because a drive can up and die at any time, the lifespan quoted by makers is purely based on an average, no one can say just when it will give up the ghost, it's luck of the draw if you get a good one or a bad one.

 

But the long and short of what I was trying to point out, was quite simply sometimes a simple fix is just that, simple, with the image back up you have little need to worry, if the simple fix does not help out, you still have that as an option, so there is nothing to lose just trying the simple options before re-imaging the entire system, so roll back for drivers, or system restore if needed, with an image in reserve there is nothing to lose.  B)

Hello

I only have my desktop and my wife's laptop but who wants to format and reinstall even one computer. I did not know you all were in the business so to speak. I will ship ours to you all when they get sick. :clap:

Peter

Hi Peter, many of us here run our own repair shops and we operate on the forums to "put something back into the community" on a volunteer basis.
It also gives us satisfaction in being able to help folks with their own home computers…

trouble shooting problems is so much easier when we have the machine in the workshop and can get our hands on it… and where we can see the effects of a certain proceedure…..whereas on the forums we have to rely on the owners reporting back accurately and comprehensively and then us prescribing a course of action that we hope will be followed ….
Sometimes this remote assistance works well …othertimes it doesn't!
Regards
paws

I commend you all for your taking the time. I wish I had the knowledge to help. Nothing feels as good as giving, when you can.

Btw, 8210GUY is my bud and we are in touch often. He is very knowledgeable as you can tell. I had to tickle him about imaging.

One post this time with any luck.

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