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Remove Searchqu from IE Windows Vista

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Hello Guys;

Did a little Research on removing Searchqu, installed and ran Combo fix with no problems; however, I just do not know what to put in the codes as the only example you all have was a fix for FireFox and I need a code for IE. Could you all help me?

This was the Tread I was following: http://forums.whatthetech.com/Searchqu_problem_t112079.html

I think all I have to do is a proper txt file drag and drop of the correct code into the Combo Fix Icon - I could be wrong.

Here is the results from Combo Fix:

ComboFix 10-09-12.01 - Main User 09/12/2010 15:43:42.4.2 - x86
Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Basic 6.0.6001.1.1252.1.1033.18.3061.1730 [GMT -6:00]
Running from: C:\Users\[removed]\Desktop\ComboFix.exe
Command switches used :: C:\Users\Main User\Desktop\CFScript.txt
SP: Windows Defender *enabled* (Updated) {D68DDC3A-831F-4FAE-9E44-DA132C1ACF46}
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ADS - drivers: deleted 204 bytes in 1 streams.

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2010-09-12 21:47:58 . 2010-09-12 21:47:58 ——– d—–w- C:\Users\Rodrigo Ramirez\AppData\Local\temp
2010-09-12 21:47:58 . 2010-09-12 21:47:58 ——– d—–w- C:\Users\Public\AppData\Local\temp
2010-09-12 21:47:58 . 2010-09-12 21:47:58 ——– d—–w- C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\temp
2010-09-12 19:54:49 . 2010-09-12 20:02:44 ——– d—–w- C:\UBCD4Win
2010-09-12 17:43:16 . 2010-04-29 21:39:38 38224 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\drivers\mbamswissarmy.sys
2010-09-12 17:43:15 . 2010-04-29 21:39:26 20952 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\drivers\mbam.sys
2010-09-12 17:43:14 . 2010-09-12 17:47:52 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware
2010-09-12 17:28:29 . 2010-09-12 17:28:29 ——– d—–w- C:\Users\Main User\AppData\Roaming\Malwarebytes
2010-09-12 17:28:24 . 2010-09-12 17:28:24 ——– d—–w- C:\ProgramData\Malwarebytes
2010-09-12 17:20:14 . 2010-09-12 17:20:14 ——– d—–w- C:\ProgramData\Avira
2010-09-12 17:20:14 . 2010-09-12 17:20:14 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\Avira
2010-09-12 17:20:14 . 2009-03-30 16:33:07 96104 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\drivers\avipbb.sys
2010-09-12 17:20:14 . 2009-03-24 22:08:22 55640 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\drivers\avgntflt.sys
2010-08-16 04:08:26 . 2010-08-16 04:08:26 ——– d—–w- C:\Users\Main User\AppData\Local\HP
2010-08-16 04:03:33 . 2010-08-16 04:03:43 ——– d—–w- C:\Users\Main User\AppData\Roaming\HP
2010-08-14 09:01:15 . 2010-08-14 09:01:15 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\MSXML 4.0

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2010-09-12 17:31:01 . 2009-09-06 14:35:49 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\Google
2010-09-12 16:44:53 . 2009-05-04 16:13:11 ——– d—–w- C:\ProgramData\McAfee
2010-09-12 16:39:17 . 2009-10-01 13:32:46 5972 —-a-w- C:\Users\Main User\AppData\Local\d3d9caps.dat
2010-09-12 16:29:52 . 2009-05-04 16:03:14 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\Creative
2010-09-12 16:29:08 . 2009-05-04 16:03:02 ——– d–h–w- C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information
2010-09-12 16:26:28 . 2009-05-04 16:22:55 ——– d—–w- C:\ProgramData\WildTangent
2010-09-12 15:54:58 . 2009-09-06 14:36:07 ——– d—–w- C:\Users\Main User\AppData\Roaming\Skype
2010-09-12 15:06:14 . 2009-07-13 14:17:15 24636 —-a-w- C:\Users\Main User\AppData\Roaming\wklnhst.dat
2010-09-12 14:02:39 . 2009-09-06 14:40:30 ——– d—–w- C:\Users\Main User\AppData\Roaming\skypePM
2010-09-09 20:53:25 . 2009-05-04 16:21:57 ——– d—–w- C:\ProgramData\Dell
2010-08-26 06:54:01 . 2009-05-04 16:42:58 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\Microsoft Silverlight
2010-08-14 09:03:32 . 2009-05-04 16:15:51 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\Microsoft Works
2010-08-10 03:28:52 . 2010-08-10 03:03:02 139791 —-a-w- C:\Windows\hpoins15.dat
2010-08-10 03:26:05 . 2010-08-10 03:26:05 ——– d—–w- C:\ProgramData\WEBREG
2010-08-10 03:24:32 . 2010-06-29 00:20:12 ——– d—–w- C:\ProgramData\HP
2010-08-10 03:12:40 . 2010-08-10 03:12:40 ——– d—–w- C:\ProgramData\HPSSUPPLY
2010-08-10 03:12:40 . 2010-06-29 00:24:25 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\HP
2010-08-10 03:10:05 . 2010-08-10 03:10:05 ——– d—–w- C:\ProgramData\HP Product Assistant
2010-08-10 03:09:44 . 2010-08-10 03:09:44 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\Common Files\HP
2010-08-10 03:09:12 . 2010-08-10 03:09:12 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard
2010-08-10 03:08:56 . 2010-08-10 03:08:56 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\Common Files\Hewlett-Packard
2010-08-10 02:38:06 . 2009-07-09 18:07:30 ——– d—–w- C:\ProgramData\GbPlugin
2010-08-10 02:33:22 . 2010-08-10 02:33:22 ——– d—–w- C:\ProgramData\Hewlett-Packard
2010-08-10 01:28:56 . 2009-07-09 18:07:30 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\GbPlugin
2010-08-01 18:36:19 . 2009-12-27 17:14:19 0 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\drivers\lvuvc.hs
2010-07-27 14:20:04 . 2009-07-16 13:40:08 45472 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\drivers\gbpkm.sys
2010-07-22 02:40:47 . 2010-07-22 02:40:46 ——– d—–w- C:\ProgramData\Office Genuine Advantage
2010-07-20 02:34:51 . 2010-03-25 17:37:31 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\iTunes
2010-07-20 02:33:52 . 2010-07-20 02:33:52 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\iPod
2010-07-20 02:33:51 . 2010-03-25 17:33:22 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple
2010-07-20 02:31:02 . 2010-07-20 02:30:22 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\QuickTime
2010-07-20 02:28:19 . 2010-07-20 02:28:17 ——– d—–w- C:\Program Files\Apple Software Update
2010-07-16 14:19:08 . 2010-07-16 14:19:08 73000 —-a-w- C:\ProgramData\Apple Computer\Installer Cache\iTunes 9.2.1.4\SetupAdmin.exe
2010-06-26 06:05:49 . 2010-08-12 23:04:17 916480 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\wininet.dll
2010-06-26 06:02:15 . 2010-08-12 23:04:15 71680 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\iesetup.dll
2010-06-26 06:02:15 . 2010-08-12 23:04:15 109056 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\iesysprep.dll
2010-06-26 04:25:02 . 2010-08-12 23:04:15 133632 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\ieUnatt.exe
2010-06-21 13:18:15 . 2010-08-12 23:04:02 2036736 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\win32k.sys
2010-06-18 16:43:54 . 2010-08-12 23:04:00 36352 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\rtutils.dll
2010-06-18 14:43:36 . 2010-08-12 23:03:51 302080 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\drivers\srv.sys
2010-06-18 14:43:14 . 2010-08-12 23:03:50 144896 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\drivers\srv2.sys
2010-06-16 15:59:54 . 2010-08-12 23:03:48 898952 —-a-w- C:\Windows\system32\drivers\tcpip.sys
2009-05-04 18:23:28 . 2009-05-04 18:20:40 8192 –sha-w- C:\Windows\Users\Default\NTUSER.DAT
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+ 2008-01-21 01:58:36 . 2010-09-12 21:37:54 55036 C:\Windows\System32\WDI\ShutdownPerformanceDiagnostics_SystemData.bin
+ 2006-11-02 13:02:52 . 2010-09-12 21:37:55 77916 C:\Windows\System32\WDI\BootPerformanceDiagnostics_SystemData.bin
+ 2009-05-23 14:21:28 . 2010-09-12 21:37:55 11052 C:\Windows\System32\WDI\{86432a0b-3c7d-4ddf-a89c-172faa90485d}\S-1-5-21-866736814-394752019-3221223061-1000_UserData.bin
+ 2008-02-03 15:42:35 . 2010-09-12 21:38:22 32768 C:\Windows\System32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat
- 2008-02-03 15:42:35 . 2010-09-12 19:57:17 32768 C:\Windows\System32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat
- 2008-02-03 15:42:35 . 2010-09-12 19:57:17 32768 C:\Windows\System32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
+ 2008-02-03 15:42:35 . 2010-09-12 21:38:22 32768 C:\Windows\System32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
+ 2008-02-03 15:42:36 . 2010-09-12 21:38:22 16384 C:\Windows\System32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.IE5\index.dat
- 2008-02-03 15:42:36 . 2010-09-12 19:57:17 16384 C:\Windows\System32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.IE5\index.dat
+ 2009-11-17 15:55:57 . 2010-09-12 21:32:14 16384 C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat
- 2009-11-17 15:55:57 . 2010-09-12 17:34:25 16384 C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat
- 2009-11-17 15:55:57 . 2010-09-12 17:34:25 32768 C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
+ 2009-11-17 15:55:57 . 2010-09-12 21:32:14 32768 C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
- 2009-11-17 15:55:57 . 2010-09-12 17:34:25 16384 C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.IE5\index.dat
+ 2009-11-17 15:55:57 . 2010-09-12 21:32:14 16384 C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.IE5\index.dat
- 2010-09-12 17:47:58 . 2010-09-12 17:47:58 2048 C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Local\lastalive1.dat
+ 2010-09-12 21:36:06 . 2010-09-12 21:36:06 2048 C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Local\lastalive1.dat
- 2010-09-12 17:47:58 . 2010-09-12 17:47:58 2048 C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Local\lastalive0.dat
+ 2010-09-12 21:36:06 . 2010-09-12 21:36:06 2048 C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Local\lastalive0.dat
+ 2006-11-02 10:33:01 . 2010-09-12 21:43:19 595684 C:\Windows\System32\perfh009.dat
- 2006-11-02 10:33:01 . 2010-09-12 17:55:50 595684 C:\Windows\System32\perfh009.dat
+ 2006-11-02 10:33:01 . 2010-09-12 21:43:19 101350 C:\Windows\System32\perfc009.dat
- 2006-11-02 10:33:01 . 2010-09-12 17:55:50 101350 C:\Windows\System32\perfc009.dat
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*Note* empty entries & legit default entries are not shown
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"Sidebar"="C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\sidebar.exe" [2008-01-21 02:32:56 1233920]
"msnmsgr"="C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Messenger\msnmsgr.exe" [2009-07-26 22:44:34 3883856]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"Windows Defender"="C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe" [2008-01-21 02:33:00 1008184]
"SysTrayApp"="C:\Program Files\IDT\WDM\sttray.exe" [2009-01-14 08:39:32 483420]
"Persistence"="C:\Windows\system32\igfxpers.exe" [2008-05-08 09:33:00 133656]
"PDVDDXSrv"="C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD DX\PDVDDXSrv.exe" [2008-02-26 15:57:28 128296]
"OEM02Mon.exe"="C:\Windows\OEM02Mon.exe" [2008-04-18 10:08:06 36864]
"IntelliPoint"="C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\ipoint.exe" [2009-06-01 18:51:52 1468296]
"IgfxTray"="C:\Windows\system32\igfxtray.exe" [2008-05-08 09:33:10 141848]
"IAAnotif"="C:\Program Files\Intel\Intel Matrix Storage Manager\Iaanotif.exe" [2007-02-12 18:37:58 174872]
"HotKeysCmds"="C:\Windows\system32\hkcmd.exe" [2008-05-08 09:32:58 166424]
"dellsupportcenter"="C:\Program Files\Dell Support Center\bin\sprtcmd.exe" [2009-01-30 05:50:06 206064]
"Dell DataSafe Online"="C:\Program Files\Dell DataSafe Online\DataSafeOnline.exe" [2009-11-13 23:15:00 1807600]
"Broadcom Wireless Manager UI"="C:\Windows\system32\WLTRAY.exe" [2008-12-18 09:58:18 3810304]
"Adobe Reader Speed Launcher"="c:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 9.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe" [2008-06-12 07:38:00 34672]
"LogitechCommunicationsManager"="C:\Program Files\Common Files\LogiShrd\LComMgr\Communications_Helper.exe" [2007-07-25 23:02:54 563984]
"LogitechQuickCamRibbon"="C:\Program Files\Logitech\QuickCam\Quickcam.exe" [2007-07-25 23:06:30 2027792]
"BrStsWnd"="C:\Program Files\Brownie\BrstsWnd.exe" [2009-05-20 02:56:36 3618104]
"AppleSyncNotifier"="C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\AppleSyncNotifier.exe" [2010-04-13 08:29:02 47392]
"QuickTime Task"="C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTTask.exe" [2010-03-19 04:16:10 421888]
"iTunesHelper"="C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe" [2010-07-16 13:41:58 141608]
"HP Software Update"="C:\Program Files\HP\HP Software Update\HPWuSchd2.exe" [2007-03-12 03:34:40 49152]
"avgnt"="C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avgnt.exe" [2009-03-02 19:08:47 209153]

[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"msnmsgr"="C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Messenger\msnmsgr.exe" [2009-07-26 22:44:34 3883856]

C:\Users\Rodrigo Ramirez\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\
Dell Dock.lnk - C:\Program Files\Dell\DellDock\DellDock.exe [2009-2-27 1316192]

C:\Users\Main User\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\
Dell Dock.lnk - C:\Program Files\Dell\DellDock\DellDock.exe [2009-2-27 1316192]

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\
HP Digital Imaging Monitor.lnk - C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqtra08.exe [2007-3-11 210520]
QuickSet.lnk - C:\Program Files\Dell\QuickSet\quickset.exe [2008-3-13 1207376]

C:\Users\Default User\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\
Dell Dock First Run.lnk - C:\Program Files\Dell\DellDock\DellDock.exe [2009-2-27 1316192]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows\currentversion\policies\system]
"EnableUIADesktopToggle"= 0 (0x0)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows nt\currentversion\winlogon\notify\ GbPluginBb]
2010-07-27 14:18:52 335136 —-a-w- C:\Program Files\GbPlugin\gbieh.dll

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows nt\currentversion\winlogon\notify\GoToAssist]
2009-05-04 16:18:51 10536 —-a-w- C:\Program Files\Citrix\GoToAssist\514\g2awinlogon.dll

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\WinDefend]
@="Service"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\swg]
C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe [BU]

R3 PCD5SRVC{3F6A8B78-EC003E00-05040104};PCD5SRVC{3F6A8B78-EC003E00-05040104} - PCDR Kernel Mode Service Helper Driver;C:\PROGRA~1\DELLSU~1\HWDiag\bin\PCD5SRVC.pkms [2008-11-04 23:16:40 22904]
S0 GbpKm;Gbp KernelMode;C:\Windows\system32\drivers\gbpkm.sys [2010-07-27 14:20:04 45472]
S2 AESTFilters;Andrea ST Filters Service;C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\stwrt.inf_ae0b52e0\aestsrv.exe [2009-01-14 08:38:56 81920]
S2 AntiVirSchedulerService;Avira AntiVir Scheduler;C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\sched.exe [2009-05-13 22:48:22 108289]
S2 DockLoginService;Dock Login Service;C:\Program Files\Dell\DellDock\DockLogin.exe [2008-12-18 18:05:28 155648]
S2 FirebirdGuardianDefaultInstance;Firebird Guardian - DefaultInstance;C:\BANCOB~1\Firebird\bin\fbguard.exe [2008-06-13 19:24:04 81920]
S2 GbpSv;Gbp Service;C:\PROGRA~1\GbPlugin\GbpSv.exe [2010-07-27 14:20:32 55072]
S3 b57nd60x;Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet - NDIS 6.0;C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\b57nd60x.sys [2008-03-24 06:26:30 183808]
S3 FirebirdServerDefaultInstance;Firebird Server - DefaultInstance;C:\BANCOB~1\Firebird\bin\fbserver.exe [2008-06-13 19:22:52 2723840]


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows nt\currentversion\svchost]
LocalServiceNoNetwork REG_MULTI_SZ PLA DPS BFE mpssvc
HPZ12 REG_MULTI_SZ Pml Driver HPZ12 Net Driver HPZ12
hpdevmgmt REG_MULTI_SZ hpqcxs08 hpqddsvc
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Contents of the 'Scheduled Tasks' folder

2010-09-12 C:\Windows\Tasks\User_Feed_Synchronization-{C16EB28D-AA9E-432A-94E0-2C7235A96E1F}.job
- C:\Windows\system32\msfeedssync.exe [2010-08-12 23:04:15 . 2010-06-26 04:24:17]
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——- Supplementary Scan ——-
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uStart Page = hxxp://www.searchqu.com/
Trusted Zone: bancobrasil.com.br\www14
Trusted Zone: bancobrasil.com.br\www2
Trusted Zone: bb.com.br\www
Trusted Zone: bdhoras.com.br\www
DPF: {DB6BF2CD-4F59-4F1C-AA9C-D08C0B61A931} - hxxps://www14.bancobrasil.com.br/plugin/GbpDist.cab
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catchme 0.3.1398 W2K/XP/Vista - rootkit/stealth malware detector by Gmer, http://www.gmer.net
Rootkit scan 2010-09-12 15:48:03
Windows 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 NTFS

scanning hidden processes …

scanning hidden autostart entries …

scanning hidden files …

scan completed successfully
hidden files: 0

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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\ControlSet001\Services\PCD5SRVC{3F6A8B78-EC003E00-05040104}]
"ImagePath"="\??\C:\PROGRA~1\DELLSU~1\HWDiag\bin\PCD5SRVC.pkms"
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Completion time: 2010-09-12 15:49:45
ComboFix-quarantined-files.txt 2010-09-12 21:49:43
ComboFix2.txt 2010-09-12 21:11:42

Pre-Run: 200,076,333,056 bytes free
Post-Run: 200,043,614,208 bytes free

- - End Of File - - E728CFD3C1892DAB99AADFED4E8DBF9E
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Running Combofix on your own could be disastrous, its a real powerful tool and not to be taken lightly. What are you experiencing to make you run Combofix ???? This forum, myself and sUbs will not be responsible if you damage your system running this tool on your own.
I can clearly see that you did not read post nor did you go to the link to one of YOUR older posts. Here it is again: This was the Tread I was following: http://forums.whatthetech.com/Searchqu_problem_t112079.html
Now, I understand the risks, so please don't inform me of liabilities.
Three things you need do.
1. If you all don't want anyone following or practicing your fixes, don't publish them where the whole world to search, see and implement.
2. Read the post. Maybe even go to the link we provide, especially if the link is to your site. This saves you the energy of talking down to somebody.
3. You don't hear #3. it is not very nice.

I don't need your alls help anymore. I will do it on my own.
Thank you.
Hi, 1. I don't see where I talked down to you, just gave you a standard warning about running Combofix. 2. All systems are different, why would I want to read someone else s post about a problem your having. 3. What Combofix can fix on one system could damage another 4. We do have a self help forum, do you see Combofix listed, no you dont. You just read about it in another thread and decided to run it on your own. 5. Are you a malware fighter, are you subscribed to the thread that lists bugs for this product and others so you know when to avoid them, no your not. 6. This thread is closed because I have better things to do than argue with you ==============================

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