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RussF92767
post Mar 10 2009, 07:39 PM
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Trend Micro PC-cillin came along with my Dell laptop...well, after a while it has stopped updating and is asking for a 1 year subscription...at $86 a pop!

With the plethoria of free anti-virus software out there, is there any real benefit to purchasing a subscription to their service, or would one be better served with one of the plethoria of free programs that exist on the market...AVG, Avira, Threatfire...would I be better of getting rid of PC-cillin in favor of one of these (or another as suggested by the forum)?

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post Mar 10 2009, 08:08 PM
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Hi Russ

I would say pay vs. no pay depends entirely on your surfing habits and needs.
I use entirely free security software, and haven't had any problems yet. But I
also have a very disciplined approach to surfing.

The most obvious benefit of buying a security suite, are usually better customer
service and support. Bought programs usually have auto-update which their
free cousins sometimes lacks, or they update more often. I have choosen my
free programs with that in mind, so all my real-time protection updates very often,
or at least as soon as new updates are available, compared to other free
alternatives.

One should also have hardware (RAM) in mind. As some programs use more resources
than other.

At the moment I use these security programs:

Avast Anti-Virus : Updates often, sometimes several during the day.
Comodo Firewall Pro. : Simply because I view it as the free Firewall at the moment.
ThreatFire : Low on resources, updates often
Spywareblaster : Manuel update, but once a month would suffice
Spybot S&D : Manuel update, Immunazitaion only, no tea-timer.

Both Spywareblaster and Spybot S&D are passive, meaning they use no resources. Some thinks
that Spybot S&D are over the hills, but I say why not include it, as it uses no resources other than
a little space on the HD.

I also use Malwarebytes Anti-malware as a on-demand scanner, and I use various on-line
scanners as well. Such as Linkscanner if I have doubts of a certain webpage.

But have a look in the link below in my signature, Preventing Malware, for more choices.

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post Mar 10 2009, 10:05 PM
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Hi Russ,

Good advice from Abydos -

In my signature Learning each day, there is also a suggested guide for you to follow to keep your computer running well.

kind regards,
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This is what I usually tell people after the cleaning process. Especially Kaspersky is great biggrin.gif
  • Make your Internet Explorer more secure - This can be done by following these simple instructions:
    • From within Internet Explorer click on the Tools menu and then click on Options.
    • Click once on the Security tab
    • Click once on the Internet icon so it becomes highlighted.
    • Click once on the Custom Level button.
      • Change the Download signed ActiveX controls to Prompt
      • Change the Download unsigned ActiveX controls to Disable
      • Change the Initialise and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe to Disable
      • Change the Installation of desktop items to Prompt
      • Change the Launching programs and files in an IFRAME to Prompt
      • Change the Navigate sub-frames across different domains to Prompt
      • When all these settings have been made, click on the OK button.
      • If it prompts you as to whether or not you want to save the settings, press the Yes button.
    • Next press the Apply button and then the OK to exit the Internet Properties page.

  • Use an Anti Virus Software - It is very important that your computer has an anti-virus software running on your machine. This alone can save you a lot of trouble with malware in the future. Here are some Anti Virus products which are free for personal use and most used:
    Avast
    Avira AntiVir

    Here are some really good paid programs which you can buy online or in a shop nearby:
    ESET NOD32
    Kaspersky Anti-Virus or Kaspersky Internet Security with Firewall included
  • Update your Anti Virus Software - It is imperitive that you update your Anti virus software at least once a week (Even more if you wish). If you do not update your anti virus software then it will not be able to catch any of the new variants that may come out.
  • Use a Firewall - Using a Firewall on your computer can be very important. Without a firewall your computer is susceptible to being hacked and taken over. There are some different situations you can be in where a third-party firewall may or may not be a good addition to your system:
    • If you are not using Windows XP or Vista, but an older version I recommend you to use a firewall.
    • If you are using Windows XP or Vista, but are on dial-up I recommend you to use a firewall.
    • If you are using Windows XP or Vista and are using broadband, but are not experienced in using firewalls and getting the choice to allow or disallow things I recommend you to use Windows Firewall.
    • If you are using Windows XP or Vista, are using broadband and experienced, I recommend you to disable Windows Firewall (as it is not perfect) and get a third-party firewall.


    Here are some firewalls which are free for personal use and most used:
    Kerio Personal Firewall (Free version after 30 days)
    Online Armor Free

    Or you could buy their paid version online or in a shop nearby:
    Kerio Personal Firewall (Continue paid version after 30 days)
    Online Armor
  • Visit Microsoft's Update Site Frequently - It is important that you visit http://update.microsoft.com/ regularly. This will ensure your computer has always the latest security updates available installed on your computer. If there are new updates to install, install them immediately, reboot your computer, and revisit the site until there are no more critical updates.
  • Install SpywareBlaster - SpywareBlaster will add a large list of programs and sites into your Internet Explorer settings that will protect you from running and downloading known malicious programs. You can download it here:
    SpywareBlaster
  • Install WinPatrol - As a robust security monitor, WinPatrol will alert you to hijackings, malware attacks and critical changes made to your computer without your permission. WinPatrol takes snapshot of your critical system resources and alerts you to any changes that may occur without your knowledge. You can download it from this website:
    WinPatrol
    The developer is a well-known man in the MalWare Removal business. If you really like WinPatrol think about upgrading to the PLUS version. It will give you additional features and you will only have to pay once, for your whole malware-free life.
  • Install MVPS HOSTS - This custom hosts file effectively blocks a wide range of unwanted ads, banners, 3rd party Cookies, 3rd party page counters, web bugs, and many hijackers.
    For information on how to download and install, please read this tutorial here:
    WinHelp2002
    Note: Be sure to follow the instructions to disable the DNS Client service before installing a custom hosts file.
  • Use an alternative Internet Browser - Many of the exploits are directed to users of Internet Explorer. Try using a different browser instead:
    Firefox << Most used, I use this one myself.
    Opera
  • Bookmark general cleanup link - It could be that your computer is becoming slower and slower. This is not always the cause of malware. Most of the times it's malware when you're computer is suddenly getting slow or doing strange. When the slowdown increases slowly, check (so now bookmark) this link for tips & tricks:
    What to do if your Computer's running slowly
  • Update all these programs regularly - Make sure you update all the programs I have listed regularly. Without regular updates you WILL NOT be protected when new malicious programs are released.


Hope that helps.

Like tallin said this link also says the same and sometimes more, so good to read:
http://forums.whatthetech.com/Computer_Tip...413#entry533413
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post Mar 24 2009, 11:58 PM
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Just get the new NIS 2k9, I wouldn’t have recommended a Symantec product but the new one really does shine. I was a die hard nod32 user prior to them releasing v4, and having some early runtime issues. NIS 2k9 is extremely light, using only around 7MB of memory when idling, and it scans very fast (the fastest scanner by far). It also has a powerful two way firewall and updates itself every 5 to 15 minutes.
Norton Internet Security 2k9 is quite cheap, around the same price as eset nod32
http://www.checkoutsoftware.com/symantec/n...rity-2009_p4996
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post Apr 13 2009, 01:46 AM
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G'day Russ
Just a little input from me as well, Though I'm no expert. I have trendmicro/pc cillin paid version. However I sometimes find that it'll let viruses and trojan varrents through without detection, I use the malwarebytes-antimalware quite often which has always detected the unwanted that trend did not. I have tried to ask about this in the past but always get the same ole responce from trendmicro ( makesure your trend software is updated daily and so on) Even though I have it set to auto update.
I will say this though any major problem I have been unable to sort and solve on my own the fine knowledge of the WTT guys have been helpful as. With easy instructions and knowledge of what they're doing and so on. Kudos toém.
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post Apr 13 2009, 09:51 AM
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Aby
>> I have choosen my free programs with that in mind, so all my real-time protection updates very often,


I thought one was not supposed to have more than one real time protection enabled; am I wrong?

I enable Mcafee security suite's ral time protection(free for Comcast customers). I also have Windows Defender, and a hardware firewall/router.
Should I enable Defender's RTP also?
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post Apr 13 2009, 11:09 AM
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Hi GP

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I thought one was not supposed to have more than one real time protection enabled; am I wrong?


No you are not.

I can't figure where you got the extra real-time protection from... unsure.gif

The basic rule is: 1 of each doing real-time protection; Firewall, AV and Anti-Spyware.
The problems come when two of the same type of applications is running alongside
each other. Stepping on each others toes one could say, as they have the same area
to protect. This still happens occasionally across applications, what we call conflicts or
compatibility problems.


Both SpywareBlaster and SpyBot S&D are passive. Using no Tea-timer (The real-time protection in Spybot)
but only the immunization part of Spybot, and the plugin for IE browser.

QUOTE
I enable Mcafee security suite's ral time protection(free for Comcast customers). I also have Windows Defender, and a hardware firewall/router.
Should I enable Defender's RTP also?


If Mcafee have real-time protection vs. Anti-spyware, I see no need for it. But I don't know Mcafee's products well enough
to answer that fully, for that you'll have to wait on others to answer it.

Hope this clears it up, otherwise just ask ahead wink.gif


Cheers

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