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kaos123
post Nov 7 2009, 05:35 PM
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My PC CRASHES EVERY SINGLE TIME

When ever i am playing High resolution games on my ATI radeon GFX 3870 with 2gb OSZ ram with a Asus Mobo, its been working fine since i built it but recnetly my PC keeps getting Blue screens and i do not know why, and i get these weird stopcodes and i dont know what they mean.

0x0000000A MAIN_WINDOW_LOST_FOCUS_EVENT
0x0000083E MSGBOX_PREVIOUS_EVENT
0x0000001E ONOFFKEY_SHORT_PRESS_EVENT
0x00000001 MSG_CONSUMED_META_EVENT
0x805409E0 ?
0x00000000
0x00000002
0x00000001
0x805226F8
0x001902FE
0xAAC31630
0xAAC3132c
0x804EF198

Also i have done memtest on my ram and it has passed

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jephree
post Nov 15 2009, 06:02 PM
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SpeedFan attaches the "fire icon" to anything 50C or greater. This is a bit misleading as most quad cores as well as high end graphics cards run @ 60C + . A heat issue would usually only occur @ about 70C.

Was that screenshot done while you were playing a game? If not can you play and monitor SpeedFan at the same time? Multiple monitors are good for this.




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post Nov 15 2009, 07:08 PM
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no that was when i was idling , i will post multiple screen shots
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post Nov 15 2009, 07:20 PM
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now this is now wen i was playing my game

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1798/qwqwqwqwq.png
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post Nov 16 2009, 09:26 PM
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That temp should not affect the computer although it is high. I assume it is the CPU temp but on my SpeedFan it lists the cores separately. Also my SpeedFan does not list my graphics cards but Everest does.

60 > 65C is standard for stock fans on high end cards.

If the Temp is not the issue can you basically force BSODs by playing? If so can you post more "Who Crashed" results?

Also did you verify that you have the latest BIOS for your motherboard?

Sorry I have no definitive ideas at this point.
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post Nov 17 2009, 04:49 PM
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would u like everst results and if so what results should i give u in everest. here is the bios details.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/5467/biosz.jpg
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post Nov 17 2009, 05:02 PM
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can you also read this post i made and consider any ideas from what they have said to me as well

http://www.fragmasters.co.uk/forum/f23/blu...096/index4.html

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post Nov 17 2009, 07:57 PM
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What is your exact Asus model motherboard? Asus support should have a list of BIOS'. See if there is one more recent than Version 1001.

http://support.asus.com/

Everest under "Sensor" should have your temps.

It is not generally useful to be posting to multiple forums but thanks for the link. It changes nothing in my thinking. It is confusing that your sensors don't cover what is usual. However I disagree that 65C is abnormal for either your CPU or GPU under stock fans.

My two most important issues would be your BIOS version and also post more dump results. Just keep forcing the error and run "WhoCrashed". A thermal issue usually results in either a Freeze or a Shutdown. BSODs' although possibly triggered by hardware are mostly software issues.

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post Nov 17 2009, 08:02 PM
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should reformating help or upgrading my bios? but isnt upgrading my Bios destroy my operating system ? as someone told me if not done correctly i destory my PC

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post Nov 17 2009, 09:31 PM
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A BIOS update is fairly quick and simple. The only issue would be a power failure so like don't update your BIOS during a severe thunderstorm etc.

The first process is to see if there is a more recent version than that which you currently have.

Reformatting or reinstalling your OS is a bit unnecessary at this point. As your computer has no problems outside of gaming the issue is most likely heat or some drivers.

Reformatting/reinstalling will not help in this case.

I reiterate: if you can force these BSODs please post more "WhoCrashed" logs. Thanks.
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post Nov 18 2009, 07:23 AM
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just to let u know recently i opened up my case and i took my gfx card out and cleaned all the dust out, and i havnt been getting any blue screens no more my PC just auto restarts., and i havnt had any new whocrashed. results

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post Nov 18 2009, 05:19 PM
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NEW ERROR

"DQS Training Failed On previous Boot reverted to slower dram speed
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First off as to DQS Training go to your BIOS and set Defaults.

Second turn off Auto-restart so that errors will be noted:

Right click My Computer then click Properties then Advanced > Startup and Recovery > Settings > System failure > Automatically restart



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post Nov 18 2009, 07:05 PM
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Crash dump directory: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump

Crash dumps are enabled on your computer.


On Thu 19/11/2009 00:54:23 your computer crashed
This was likely caused by the following module: ks.sys
Bugcheck code: 0x1000000A (0x2, 0x1C, 0x0, 0x80502CC7)
Error: Unknown
Dump file: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini111909-01.dmp
file path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: Kernel CSA Library
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect, possibly the culprit may be another driver on your system which cannot be identified at this time.
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post Nov 18 2009, 09:05 PM
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Another generic "wild card" fault basically blaming nothing in particular.

Back to the first post you indicated that this system used to be able to play these games? Is that correct?

You also indicated that cleaning the computer had some affect? Correct?

I'd suggest an experiment:

Leave the case side off and blow the biggest room fan you have right into the case on high speed and see it that changes anything.
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post Nov 19 2009, 06:42 AM
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QUOTE (jephree @ Nov 19 2009, 03:05 AM) *
Another generic "wild card" fault basically blaming nothing in particular.

Back to the first post you indicated that this system used to be able to play these games? Is that correct?

You also indicated that cleaning the computer had some affect? Correct?

I'd suggest an experiment:

Leave the case side off and blow the biggest room fan you have right into the case on high speed and see it that changes anything.



yes i was able to play before with out no issues, yes i cleaned it and had no problems (might be wrong or by chance i did something else) and my uncle changed my ram and gave me 1gb sticks altogther 4gb which if i apply onto my PC, i get a error message telling me "
"DQS Training Failed On previous Boot reverted to slower dram speed" and i had the problem so my uncle then updated my bios which some what helped we thought but i guess it didnt. we still have the same problem.

BUT I WILL BLOW A BIG FAN IN MY PC smile.gif

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